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Apr 7, 2026 · 21m · mixergy

#2302 Superpowering Claude with 10,000 apps

Wade Foster · 16m spoken Andrew Warner · 3m spoken
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Zapier CEO Wade Foster demonstrates the new Zapier SDK in Cursor, showing how connecting AI coding agents to thousands of APIs enables high-leverage executive workflows, custom CRMs, and automated multi-agent audits.

How this conversation actually went

Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Andrew holds 15.4% of the talking time here. How this is scored →

Andrew as informed peer 3.6 Guest teaching 3.8 Guest disagreement 0.4 Andrew pushing back 0.6
05100:0010:0020:002:10–5:26 · Andrew as informed peer 4/10 SDK Setup, Demo Mode, and MCP Differences Andrew demonstrates a solid grasp of technical privacy needs with demo mode and asks an informed question comparing the new SDK to Zapier's MCP integration. Wade educates Andrew on the technical distinction between predefined tool triggers and arbitrary API request execution.5:26–12:11 · Andrew as informed peer 4/10 Custom CEO CRM and Automated Outreach System Wade showcases his custom CEO CRM and outreach automation pipeline. Andrew actively validates the system and articulates how Clay solves contact verification within agentic workflows.12:11–15:53 · Andrew as informed peer 3/10 Daily Briefs, Doc Reviews, and Multi-Agent Hiring Audits Wade explains advanced multi-agent workflows, including daily brief generation and an advisory council for hiring scorecards. Andrew listens receptively to the breakdown of time savings and velocity compounding.15:53–21:02 · Andrew as informed peer 5/10 Compounding Automations and Agent Optimization Habits Andrew brainstorms his own integrations (YouTube, Mercury) and questions how chat history is analyzed, citing Claude Code's limitations. Wade clarifies how Cursor handles chat reviews and compounding skill creation.21:02–21:36 · Andrew as informed peer 2/10 Resource Distribution and Episode Conclusion Andrew wraps up the interview by arranging resource links for listeners and closing out the episode with high enthusiasm.2:10–5:26 · Guest teaching 5/10 SDK Setup, Demo Mode, and MCP Differences Andrew demonstrates a solid grasp of technical privacy needs with demo mode and asks an informed question comparing the new SDK to Zapier's MCP integration. Wade educates Andrew on the technical distinction between predefined tool triggers and arbitrary API request execution.5:26–12:11 · Guest teaching 4/10 Custom CEO CRM and Automated Outreach System Wade showcases his custom CEO CRM and outreach automation pipeline. Andrew actively validates the system and articulates how Clay solves contact verification within agentic workflows.12:11–15:53 · Guest teaching 5/10 Daily Briefs, Doc Reviews, and Multi-Agent Hiring Audits Wade explains advanced multi-agent workflows, including daily brief generation and an advisory council for hiring scorecards. Andrew listens receptively to the breakdown of time savings and velocity compounding.15:53–21:02 · Guest teaching 4/10 Compounding Automations and Agent Optimization Habits Andrew brainstorms his own integrations (YouTube, Mercury) and questions how chat history is analyzed, citing Claude Code's limitations. Wade clarifies how Cursor handles chat reviews and compounding skill creation.21:02–21:36 · Guest teaching 1/10 Resource Distribution and Episode Conclusion Andrew wraps up the interview by arranging resource links for listeners and closing out the episode with high enthusiasm.2:10–5:26 · Guest disagreement 1/10 SDK Setup, Demo Mode, and MCP Differences Andrew demonstrates a solid grasp of technical privacy needs with demo mode and asks an informed question comparing the new SDK to Zapier's MCP integration. Wade educates Andrew on the technical distinction between predefined tool triggers and arbitrary API request execution.5:26–12:11 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Custom CEO CRM and Automated Outreach System Wade showcases his custom CEO CRM and outreach automation pipeline. Andrew actively validates the system and articulates how Clay solves contact verification within agentic workflows.12:11–15:53 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Daily Briefs, Doc Reviews, and Multi-Agent Hiring Audits Wade explains advanced multi-agent workflows, including daily brief generation and an advisory council for hiring scorecards. Andrew listens receptively to the breakdown of time savings and velocity compounding.15:53–21:02 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Compounding Automations and Agent Optimization Habits Andrew brainstorms his own integrations (YouTube, Mercury) and questions how chat history is analyzed, citing Claude Code's limitations. Wade clarifies how Cursor handles chat reviews and compounding skill creation.21:02–21:36 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Resource Distribution and Episode Conclusion Andrew wraps up the interview by arranging resource links for listeners and closing out the episode with high enthusiasm.2:10–5:26 · Andrew pushing back 1/10 SDK Setup, Demo Mode, and MCP Differences Andrew demonstrates a solid grasp of technical privacy needs with demo mode and asks an informed question comparing the new SDK to Zapier's MCP integration. Wade educates Andrew on the technical distinction between predefined tool triggers and arbitrary API request execution.5:26–12:11 · Andrew pushing back 0/10 Custom CEO CRM and Automated Outreach System Wade showcases his custom CEO CRM and outreach automation pipeline. Andrew actively validates the system and articulates how Clay solves contact verification within agentic workflows.12:11–15:53 · Andrew pushing back 0/10 Daily Briefs, Doc Reviews, and Multi-Agent Hiring Audits Wade explains advanced multi-agent workflows, including daily brief generation and an advisory council for hiring scorecards. Andrew listens receptively to the breakdown of time savings and velocity compounding.15:53–21:02 · Andrew pushing back 2/10 Compounding Automations and Agent Optimization Habits Andrew brainstorms his own integrations (YouTube, Mercury) and questions how chat history is analyzed, citing Claude Code's limitations. Wade clarifies how Cursor handles chat reviews and compounding skill creation.21:02–21:36 · Andrew pushing back 0/10 Resource Distribution and Episode Conclusion Andrew wraps up the interview by arranging resource links for listeners and closing out the episode with high enthusiasm.

speaking balance: gold is Andrew, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Andrew 0.7% · guest 99.3%0:00 · Andrew 0.7% · guest 99.3%3:00 · Andrew 14% · guest 86%3:00 · Andrew 14% · guest 86%6:00 · Andrew 0% · guest 100%6:00 · Andrew 0% · guest 100%9:00 · Andrew 17.7% · guest 82.3%9:00 · Andrew 17.7% · guest 82.3%12:00 · Andrew 9.3% · guest 90.7%12:00 · Andrew 9.3% · guest 90.7%15:00 · Andrew 36.7% · guest 63.3%15:00 · Andrew 36.7% · guest 63.3%18:00 · Andrew 15.8% · guest 84.2%18:00 · Andrew 15.8% · guest 84.2%21:00 · Andrew 92.4% · guest 7.6%21:00 · Andrew 92.4% · guest 7.6%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 18:47 Cursor chat history correction

Wade gently pushes back against Andrew's assertion that AI agents cannot inspect past closed chat sessions, confirming it works seamlessly in Cursor.

 Hardest push from Andrew ▶ 18:47 Skeptical challenge on Claude Code chat memory

Andrew directly interrupts and challenges Wade's claim about reviewing past chats, citing his own friction with Claude Code's inability to retain closed chat context.

 Biggest teaching moment ▶ 4:04 SDK arbitrary API execution vs predefined MCP triggers

Wade clearly differentiates the new Zapier SDK from standard MCP servers by detailing its ability to make arbitrary API calls rather than relying strictly on predefined action libraries.

 Andrew holds their own ▶ 10:12 Andrew explains Clay contact enrichment

Andrew demonstrates his operational knowledge by precisely articulating why connecting Clay solves stale CRM data problems in autonomous agent messaging.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicAndrew as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementAndrew pushing backWhy
SDK Setup, Demo Mode, and MCP Differences 4511 Andrew demonstrates a solid grasp of technical privacy needs with demo mode and asks an informed question comparing the new SDK to Zapier's MCP integration. Wade educates Andrew on the technical distinction between predefined tool triggers and arbitrary API request execution.
Custom CEO CRM and Automated Outreach System 4400 Wade showcases his custom CEO CRM and outreach automation pipeline. Andrew actively validates the system and articulates how Clay solves contact verification within agentic workflows.
Daily Briefs, Doc Reviews, and Multi-Agent Hiring Audits 3500 Wade explains advanced multi-agent workflows, including daily brief generation and an advisory council for hiring scorecards. Andrew listens receptively to the breakdown of time savings and velocity compounding.
Compounding Automations and Agent Optimization Habits 5412 Andrew brainstorms his own integrations (YouTube, Mercury) and questions how chat history is analyzed, citing Claude Code's limitations. Wade clarifies how Cursor handles chat reviews and compounding skill creation.
Resource Distribution and Episode Conclusion 2100 Andrew wraps up the interview by arranging resource links for listeners and closing out the episode with high enthusiasm.

Statements from this episode (11)

Disclosure
Zapier launches the Zapier SDK into open beta
“We are launching the Zapier SDK into open beta.”
Wade Foster Apr 7, 2026 ▶ 0:27
Assertion Supported
Foster: Zapier integrates with almost 10,000 apps
“Almost 10,000 apps that Zapier hooks into.”
Wade Foster Apr 7, 2026 ▶ 1:04
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Foster: Has written zero lines of production code
“I am not an engineer. I have, like, written zero lines of production code in my entire life.”
Wade Foster Apr 7, 2026 ▶ 1:37
Assertion Supported
Zapier SDK allows AI agents to make arbitrary API requests
“What the SDK can do, especially when you're using an agent harness, is it can run arbitrary API requests. So whereas the MCP has all the Zapier trigger and action library predefined out of the box, the SDK can say, hey, I have access to Slack's API docs. I can…”
Wade Foster Apr 7, 2026 ▶ 4:28
Opinion
Foster: Humans still write better emails than AI tools do
“I still think that I write better emails than these tools do, but it usually does a good enough draft that I can just tweak a few things and be like, great, you know, send it for me.”
Wade Foster Apr 7, 2026 ▶ 8:49
Disclosure
Wade Foster uses GPT-5 inside Cursor for his coding agent workflows
“I just know that I've got an amazing coding agent in Cursor, inside of Cursor, and in this case, I'm using GPT-Five.”
Wade Foster Apr 7, 2026 ▶ 11:18
Disclosure
Foster consults an AI agent daily to identify new workflow automations
“I find myself every single day, first thing in the morning, I just talk to the agent and I say like, hey, what work have I done recently where I should build new workflows and build new agents and build new stuff? And it will start proposing them to me and say…”
Wade Foster Apr 7, 2026 ▶ 11:39
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Zapier CEO Wade Foster personally reviews every company job offer
“I review every single job offer that goes out inside of Zapier still.”
Wade Foster Apr 7, 2026 ▶ 13:42
Assertion Not checkable as stated
AI agents reduced Foster's candidate review time from 30 to five minutes
“And that was a task that used to take me You know, 30 minutes per every candidate. And now it's down to like five.”
Wade Foster Apr 7, 2026 ▶ 14:53
Insight
Foster: Automating workflows trains your brain to spot further automation opportunities
“Once you start automating a few things, you find that your own brain starts to get better at spotting opportunities because you're like, oh, I remember this other thing I did that was kind of like this. I can probably do this in the same way or the same versio…”
Wade Foster Apr 7, 2026 ▶ 18:05
Insight
Foster: Do AI tasks manually before converting repetitive workflows into skills
“My approach is I usually do it the manual way first. It's like, I'll usually just like, you know, pop open a new chat, and I'll just start yapping at it. And then if I find myself doing the same thing kind of over and over again, then I'll build like a skill f…”
Wade Foster Apr 7, 2026 ▶ 19:14
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