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Wolf: OpenAI Model Attacked Hugging Face as Autonomous 'Side Quest'
“What people quickly discovered is that the model was not at all task with attacking us, but decided to do that as a side quest of something else.”
Thomas Wolf Aug 6, 2026 ▶ 4:55 “OpenAI’s Model Hacked Us” - Hugging Face’s Thomas Wolf
Assertion Partly supported
50% of Hugging Face model derivatives are now based on Qwen
“I think 50% of all model derivatives being downloaded from Hugging Face or Quen base now.”
Nathan Benaich Oct 30, 2025 ▶ 34:33 State of AI 2025 with Nathan Benaich: Power Deals, Reasoning Breakthroughs, Real Revenue
Assertion Partly supported
Delangue: OpenAI uses open source and is a Hugging Face customer
“As a matter of fact, open AI is using open source as a customer of Fergingface”
Clement Delangue Oct 17, 2024 ▶ 7:34 The $4.5B Platform Driving the Open Source AI Revolution | Clem Delangue, CEO, Hugging Face
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Lambert: Kernel differences between vLLM and Hugging Face cause RL numerical instability
“VLLM and HuggingFace use different kernels to do the actual internal computation of the model. So these kernels are the things that make things like vLLM really fast. But these things, this then results in subtle numerical differences between the completions t…”
Nathan Lambert Nov 20, 2025 ▶ 1:15:29 Open Source AI Strikes Back — Inside Ai2’s OLMo 3 ‘Thinking"
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Over 500 DeepSeek model variants hit Hugging Face within a month
“DeepSeq for example, just within one month of releasing their new models, There are, despite DeepSeq model, extremely hard to tune and optimize, extremely hard. There are 500, more than 500 variants published on Hugging Face, optimizing for local device, optim…”
Lin Qiao Mar 27, 2025 ▶ 56:29 Why This Ex-Meta Leader is Rethinking AI Infrastructure | Lin Qiao, CEO, Fireworks AI
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Delangue: Hugging Face has 5M builders and 1M public models
“Today, as I mentioned, where we have five million AI builders using, using our platform, who collaboratively shared one million public models.”
Clement Delangue Oct 17, 2024 ▶ 33:29 The $4.5B Platform Driving the Open Source AI Revolution | Clem Delangue, CEO, Hugging Face
Assertion Partly supported
Delangue: Hugging Face built the most popular open-source NLP library
“We mostly known For having built the most popular open source NLP library, which is on GitHub, that is called Transformers.”
Clement Delangue Jan 22, 2020 ▶ 0:58 NLP—The Most Important Field of ML // Clement Delangue, Hugging Face (FirstMark's Data Driven NYC)
Assertion Partly supported
Benaich: Hugging Face data shows over 500M Llama derivative downloads
“The data as of like a week or two ago from his platform, Hugging Faces, like there's probably over half a billion Lama derivative models that have been downloaded.”
Nathan Benaich Nov 14, 2024 ▶ 11:50 State of AI 2024: Frontier Models, AI Geopolitics, Robotics | Nathan Benaich, Air Street Capital
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Delangue: Users contributed over 200k datasets to Hugging Face
“They also contributed, I think it's more than 200,000 data sets to the platform.”
Clement Delangue Oct 17, 2024 ▶ 33:56 The $4.5B Platform Driving the Open Source AI Revolution | Clem Delangue, CEO, Hugging Face
Assertion Supported
Delangue: Users built over 300k app spaces on Hugging Face
“And collectively they built over 300,000 spaces which are the apps, ah, on, on the Hugging Face platform.”
Clement Delangue Oct 17, 2024 ▶ 34:17 The $4.5B Platform Driving the Open Source AI Revolution | Clem Delangue, CEO, Hugging Face
Assertion Partly supported
Hugging Face hosts over one million AI models as of April 2024
“We saw those, what, one million, over one million models on Hugging Face, and literally thousands added every day”
Matt Turck Apr 26, 2024 ▶ 9:40 Navigating the AI Landscape: A Survival Guide | 2024 MAD Landscape with Matt Turck and Aman Kabeer
Assertion Contradicted
Delangue: Hugging Face cited in over 700 research papers over 15 months
“We've been lucky to have been mentioned in more than 700 research papers for the last 15 months”
Clement Delangue Jan 22, 2020 ▶ 1:17 NLP—The Most Important Field of ML // Clement Delangue, Hugging Face (FirstMark's Data Driven NYC)
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