Oct 16, 2014 · 20m · mad

John Rauser, Pinterest // Big Data at Pinterest // Data Driven NYC (Hosted by FirstMark Capital)

John Rauser · 16m spoken Matt Turck · 1m spoken Kevin Keenum · 44s spoken
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In this Data Driven NYC presentation, John Rauser demonstrates how software engineers can use basic programming concepts—iteration, logic, and random number generation—to master fundamental statistics without getting bogged down in complex mathematical formulas.

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Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Matt holds 6.5% of the talking time here. How this is scored →

Matt as informed peer 0.6 Guest teaching 5.8 Guest disagreement 2.6 Matt pushing back 0.4
05100:0010:0020:000:41–4:24 · Matt as informed peer 0/10 Background at AWS and 'Faking It' in Statistics In this opening monologue segment, Rauser shares his background at AWS and sets up his thesis by pointing out that many software engineers fake their understanding of statistics. The host does not speak, requiring zero host scores. Rauser gently challenges the audience while introducing the theme of technical self-education.4:24–6:26 · Matt as informed peer 0/10 The Case Study: Beer and Mosquito Attractiveness Rauser introduces a concrete case study from PLOS ONE examining whether beer consumption increases mosquito attractiveness. As a monologue presentation, host metrics remain at zero. Rauser smoothly lays out the experimental setup and the basic numerical gap between the test groups.6:26–9:31 · Matt as informed peer 0/10 The Analytical Approach: STAT 101 and Welch's T-Test Rauser critiques standard STAT 101 pedagogy by walking through Welch's T-test, degrees of freedom, and sampling distributions. He educates the audience on why conventional mathematical formalisms confuse even experienced practitioners. Because this is a continuation of the presentation monologue, host scores are strictly zero.9:31–13:53 · Matt as informed peer 0/10 The Computational Approach: Random Permutation Test Rauser demonstrates how computer iteration and random permutation tests solve the statistical problem intuitively, backing his approach with a citation from R.A. Fisher. The segment remains a pure solo presentation, keeping host scores at zero. Rauser authoritatively argues that programming grants direct access to core statistical ideas.13:53–20:36 · Matt as informed peer 3/10 Concluding Remarks on Programming Superpowers The session transitions to Q&A where host Matt Turck asks practical questions about Pinterest hiring and data tools, and an audience member offers a comment on Bayesian stats. Rauser displays mild combativeness by candidly pointing out that the audience comment lacked an actual question. Turck plays a light facilitative role without pressing hard on claims.0:41–4:24 · Guest teaching 5/10 Background at AWS and 'Faking It' in Statistics In this opening monologue segment, Rauser shares his background at AWS and sets up his thesis by pointing out that many software engineers fake their understanding of statistics. The host does not speak, requiring zero host scores. Rauser gently challenges the audience while introducing the theme of technical self-education.4:24–6:26 · Guest teaching 5/10 The Case Study: Beer and Mosquito Attractiveness Rauser introduces a concrete case study from PLOS ONE examining whether beer consumption increases mosquito attractiveness. As a monologue presentation, host metrics remain at zero. Rauser smoothly lays out the experimental setup and the basic numerical gap between the test groups.6:26–9:31 · Guest teaching 7/10 The Analytical Approach: STAT 101 and Welch's T-Test Rauser critiques standard STAT 101 pedagogy by walking through Welch's T-test, degrees of freedom, and sampling distributions. He educates the audience on why conventional mathematical formalisms confuse even experienced practitioners. Because this is a continuation of the presentation monologue, host scores are strictly zero.9:31–13:53 · Guest teaching 7/10 The Computational Approach: Random Permutation Test Rauser demonstrates how computer iteration and random permutation tests solve the statistical problem intuitively, backing his approach with a citation from R.A. Fisher. The segment remains a pure solo presentation, keeping host scores at zero. Rauser authoritatively argues that programming grants direct access to core statistical ideas.13:53–20:36 · Guest teaching 5/10 Concluding Remarks on Programming Superpowers The session transitions to Q&A where host Matt Turck asks practical questions about Pinterest hiring and data tools, and an audience member offers a comment on Bayesian stats. Rauser displays mild combativeness by candidly pointing out that the audience comment lacked an actual question. Turck plays a light facilitative role without pressing hard on claims.0:41–4:24 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Background at AWS and 'Faking It' in Statistics In this opening monologue segment, Rauser shares his background at AWS and sets up his thesis by pointing out that many software engineers fake their understanding of statistics. The host does not speak, requiring zero host scores. Rauser gently challenges the audience while introducing the theme of technical self-education.4:24–6:26 · Guest disagreement 1/10 The Case Study: Beer and Mosquito Attractiveness Rauser introduces a concrete case study from PLOS ONE examining whether beer consumption increases mosquito attractiveness. As a monologue presentation, host metrics remain at zero. Rauser smoothly lays out the experimental setup and the basic numerical gap between the test groups.6:26–9:31 · Guest disagreement 3/10 The Analytical Approach: STAT 101 and Welch's T-Test Rauser critiques standard STAT 101 pedagogy by walking through Welch's T-test, degrees of freedom, and sampling distributions. He educates the audience on why conventional mathematical formalisms confuse even experienced practitioners. Because this is a continuation of the presentation monologue, host scores are strictly zero.9:31–13:53 · Guest disagreement 2/10 The Computational Approach: Random Permutation Test Rauser demonstrates how computer iteration and random permutation tests solve the statistical problem intuitively, backing his approach with a citation from R.A. Fisher. The segment remains a pure solo presentation, keeping host scores at zero. Rauser authoritatively argues that programming grants direct access to core statistical ideas.13:53–20:36 · Guest disagreement 5/10 Concluding Remarks on Programming Superpowers The session transitions to Q&A where host Matt Turck asks practical questions about Pinterest hiring and data tools, and an audience member offers a comment on Bayesian stats. Rauser displays mild combativeness by candidly pointing out that the audience comment lacked an actual question. Turck plays a light facilitative role without pressing hard on claims.0:41–4:24 · Matt pushing back 0/10 Background at AWS and 'Faking It' in Statistics In this opening monologue segment, Rauser shares his background at AWS and sets up his thesis by pointing out that many software engineers fake their understanding of statistics. The host does not speak, requiring zero host scores. Rauser gently challenges the audience while introducing the theme of technical self-education.4:24–6:26 · Matt pushing back 0/10 The Case Study: Beer and Mosquito Attractiveness Rauser introduces a concrete case study from PLOS ONE examining whether beer consumption increases mosquito attractiveness. As a monologue presentation, host metrics remain at zero. Rauser smoothly lays out the experimental setup and the basic numerical gap between the test groups.6:26–9:31 · Matt pushing back 0/10 The Analytical Approach: STAT 101 and Welch's T-Test Rauser critiques standard STAT 101 pedagogy by walking through Welch's T-test, degrees of freedom, and sampling distributions. He educates the audience on why conventional mathematical formalisms confuse even experienced practitioners. Because this is a continuation of the presentation monologue, host scores are strictly zero.9:31–13:53 · Matt pushing back 0/10 The Computational Approach: Random Permutation Test Rauser demonstrates how computer iteration and random permutation tests solve the statistical problem intuitively, backing his approach with a citation from R.A. Fisher. The segment remains a pure solo presentation, keeping host scores at zero. Rauser authoritatively argues that programming grants direct access to core statistical ideas.13:53–20:36 · Matt pushing back 2/10 Concluding Remarks on Programming Superpowers The session transitions to Q&A where host Matt Turck asks practical questions about Pinterest hiring and data tools, and an audience member offers a comment on Bayesian stats. Rauser displays mild combativeness by candidly pointing out that the audience comment lacked an actual question. Turck plays a light facilitative role without pressing hard on claims.

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Sharpest disagreement ▶ 19:30 Calling out non-question during audience Q&A

When audience member Kevin Keenum gives a statement about Bayesian statistics, Rauser bluntly highlights that there was no question in the comment before giving a brief reaction.

Hardest push from Matt ▶ 16:21 Host pressing for specific recruitment practices

Matt Turck follows up on Rauser's general answer by pressing specifically on how Pinterest finds or trains data scientists from non-traditional backgrounds.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 8:35 Demystifying classical sampling distributions

Rauser illustrates how traditional stats education obscures key intuition behind degrees of freedom and sampling distributions under layers of mathematical formalisms.

Matt holds his own ▶ 14:43 Host steering presentation toward practical engineering hiring

Matt Turck immediately grounds Rauser's theoretical talk into real-world business context by asking how Pinterest balances software skills against statistics background during hiring.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicMatt as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementMatt pushing backWhy
Background at AWS and 'Faking It' in Statistics 0520 In this opening monologue segment, Rauser shares his background at AWS and sets up his thesis by pointing out that many software engineers fake their understanding of statistics. The host does not speak, requiring zero host scores. Rauser gently challenges the audience while introducing the theme of technical self-education.
The Case Study: Beer and Mosquito Attractiveness 0510 Rauser introduces a concrete case study from PLOS ONE examining whether beer consumption increases mosquito attractiveness. As a monologue presentation, host metrics remain at zero. Rauser smoothly lays out the experimental setup and the basic numerical gap between the test groups.
The Analytical Approach: STAT 101 and Welch's T-Test 0730 Rauser critiques standard STAT 101 pedagogy by walking through Welch's T-test, degrees of freedom, and sampling distributions. He educates the audience on why conventional mathematical formalisms confuse even experienced practitioners. Because this is a continuation of the presentation monologue, host scores are strictly zero.
The Computational Approach: Random Permutation Test 0720 Rauser demonstrates how computer iteration and random permutation tests solve the statistical problem intuitively, backing his approach with a citation from R.A. Fisher. The segment remains a pure solo presentation, keeping host scores at zero. Rauser authoritatively argues that programming grants direct access to core statistical ideas.
Concluding Remarks on Programming Superpowers 3552 The session transitions to Q&A where host Matt Turck asks practical questions about Pinterest hiring and data tools, and an audience member offers a comment on Bayesian stats. Rauser displays mild combativeness by candidly pointing out that the audience comment lacked an actual question. Turck plays a light facilitative role without pressing hard on claims.

Statements from this episode (7)

Opinion
John Rauser says many software engineers fake their understanding of statistics
“What I want to claim today is that many of you are faking it when it comes to statistics.”
John Rauser Oct 16, 2014 ▶ 2:02
Assertion Supported
A study shows beer drinkers attract 4.4 more mosquitoes than water drinkers
“To get the, to find that the average person who drank beer attracted 4.4 more mosquitoes than the average water drinker.”
John Rauser Oct 16, 2014 ▶ 5:51
Disclosure
Pinterest data scientist John Rauser cannot derive the t-distribution from scratch
“There might be five people in this room, the people who raised their hands, who could sit down and just derive this from first principles. I am certainly not among those people, and I am a working data scientist.”
John Rauser Oct 16, 2014 ▶ 9:21
Insight
John Rauser: Classical analytical statistics relies on assumptions that are rarely true
“The analytical approach is not better. This is an approximation to a distribution under a model with a whole bunch of assumptions which are rarely true and are almost always ignored anyway.”
John Rauser Oct 16, 2014 ▶ 12:24
Insight
John Rauser says programming gives developers superpowers for learning statistics
“If you can program a computer You have superpowers when it comes to learning statistics, because being able to program allows you to tinker with the most fundamental ideas in statistics, the way you might have tinkered with electronics when you were a kid, or …”
John Rauser Oct 16, 2014 ▶ 13:56
Insight
John Rauser: Working data scientists must know how to code
“Yeah, I mean, I think, ah, like a working data scientist has to be able to code, because if they can't fish for themselves, right?”
John Rauser Oct 16, 2014 ▶ 15:15
Disclosure
Moving from Hive to Amazon Redshift was a game changer for Pinterest
“At Pinterest we use Redshift. We're big users of Amazon's Redshift product. That's been a pretty substantial game changer for us moving away from Hive.”
John Rauser Oct 16, 2014 ▶ 17:33
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