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May 22, 2018 · 23m · mad

Defining Responsible Data Practices // Natalie Harris, BrightHive (FirstMark's Data Driven)

Natalie Evans-Harris · 19m spoken Matt Turck · 41s spoken
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In this presentation and Q&A from FirstMark's Data Driven event, BrightHive COO Natalie Evans-Harris outlines the evolution from data hype to responsible sharing practices. She presents community-driven ethical frameworks and practical strategies for embedding human-centered data governance across government, industry, and academia.

How this conversation actually went

Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Matt holds 3.3% of the talking time here. How this is scored →

Matt as informed peer 0.3 Guest teaching 0.7 Guest disagreement 0.0 Matt pushing back 0.3
05100:0010:0020:002:02–4:07 · Matt as informed peer 0/10 The Data Revolution and Inflated Expectations In this monologue segment, Natalie introduces herself and discusses the hype cycle of data expectations. Because the host does not speak or participate, host scores are set to zero.4:07–7:58 · Matt as informed peer 0/10 Three Foundational Premises for Responsible Data Practices Natalie details her three foundational premises regarding human-centered data, trust, and organizational culture. The host does not speak in this segment.7:58–10:49 · Matt as informed peer 0/10 Grassroots Development of Ethical Data Sharing Principles Natalie presents the grassroots effort co-founded with Bloomberg and Data for Democracy to build ethical data standards. The host is silent throughout this segment.10:49–16:49 · Matt as informed peer 0/10 Core Ethical Principles and Inspiring Community-Driven Action Natalie discusses practical application of ethics and quotes Barbara Jordan regarding grassroots community action. Because it is a solo presentation, host scores remain zero.16:49–19:45 · Matt as informed peer 2/10 Moderated Discussion on Executive Engagement and Organizational Ethics Matt Turck asks whether the initiative reaches C-suite executives who pressure data scientists. Natalie collaboratively explains how companies and non-profits adopt their ethical frameworks.19:45–23:09 · Matt as informed peer 0/10 Audience Q&A on Ethics in Education and Concluding Remarks An audience member asks about teaching ethics in engineering programs, and Natalie shares strategies including Kathy O'Neil's ethical matrix. Matt provides standard closing remarks.2:02–4:07 · Guest teaching 0/10 The Data Revolution and Inflated Expectations In this monologue segment, Natalie introduces herself and discusses the hype cycle of data expectations. Because the host does not speak or participate, host scores are set to zero.4:07–7:58 · Guest teaching 0/10 Three Foundational Premises for Responsible Data Practices Natalie details her three foundational premises regarding human-centered data, trust, and organizational culture. The host does not speak in this segment.7:58–10:49 · Guest teaching 0/10 Grassroots Development of Ethical Data Sharing Principles Natalie presents the grassroots effort co-founded with Bloomberg and Data for Democracy to build ethical data standards. The host is silent throughout this segment.10:49–16:49 · Guest teaching 0/10 Core Ethical Principles and Inspiring Community-Driven Action Natalie discusses practical application of ethics and quotes Barbara Jordan regarding grassroots community action. Because it is a solo presentation, host scores remain zero.16:49–19:45 · Guest teaching 2/10 Moderated Discussion on Executive Engagement and Organizational Ethics Matt Turck asks whether the initiative reaches C-suite executives who pressure data scientists. Natalie collaboratively explains how companies and non-profits adopt their ethical frameworks.19:45–23:09 · Guest teaching 2/10 Audience Q&A on Ethics in Education and Concluding Remarks An audience member asks about teaching ethics in engineering programs, and Natalie shares strategies including Kathy O'Neil's ethical matrix. Matt provides standard closing remarks.2:02–4:07 · Guest disagreement 0/10 The Data Revolution and Inflated Expectations In this monologue segment, Natalie introduces herself and discusses the hype cycle of data expectations. Because the host does not speak or participate, host scores are set to zero.4:07–7:58 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Three Foundational Premises for Responsible Data Practices Natalie details her three foundational premises regarding human-centered data, trust, and organizational culture. The host does not speak in this segment.7:58–10:49 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Grassroots Development of Ethical Data Sharing Principles Natalie presents the grassroots effort co-founded with Bloomberg and Data for Democracy to build ethical data standards. The host is silent throughout this segment.10:49–16:49 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Core Ethical Principles and Inspiring Community-Driven Action Natalie discusses practical application of ethics and quotes Barbara Jordan regarding grassroots community action. Because it is a solo presentation, host scores remain zero.16:49–19:45 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Moderated Discussion on Executive Engagement and Organizational Ethics Matt Turck asks whether the initiative reaches C-suite executives who pressure data scientists. Natalie collaboratively explains how companies and non-profits adopt their ethical frameworks.19:45–23:09 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Audience Q&A on Ethics in Education and Concluding Remarks An audience member asks about teaching ethics in engineering programs, and Natalie shares strategies including Kathy O'Neil's ethical matrix. Matt provides standard closing remarks.2:02–4:07 · Matt pushing back 0/10 The Data Revolution and Inflated Expectations In this monologue segment, Natalie introduces herself and discusses the hype cycle of data expectations. Because the host does not speak or participate, host scores are set to zero.4:07–7:58 · Matt pushing back 0/10 Three Foundational Premises for Responsible Data Practices Natalie details her three foundational premises regarding human-centered data, trust, and organizational culture. The host does not speak in this segment.7:58–10:49 · Matt pushing back 0/10 Grassroots Development of Ethical Data Sharing Principles Natalie presents the grassroots effort co-founded with Bloomberg and Data for Democracy to build ethical data standards. The host is silent throughout this segment.10:49–16:49 · Matt pushing back 0/10 Core Ethical Principles and Inspiring Community-Driven Action Natalie discusses practical application of ethics and quotes Barbara Jordan regarding grassroots community action. Because it is a solo presentation, host scores remain zero.16:49–19:45 · Matt pushing back 2/10 Moderated Discussion on Executive Engagement and Organizational Ethics Matt Turck asks whether the initiative reaches C-suite executives who pressure data scientists. Natalie collaboratively explains how companies and non-profits adopt their ethical frameworks.19:45–23:09 · Matt pushing back 0/10 Audience Q&A on Ethics in Education and Concluding Remarks An audience member asks about teaching ethics in engineering programs, and Natalie shares strategies including Kathy O'Neil's ethical matrix. Matt provides standard closing remarks.

speaking balance: gold is Matt, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Matt 0% · guest 100%0:00 · Matt 0% · guest 100%3:00 · Matt 0% · guest 100%3:00 · Matt 0% · guest 100%6:00 · Matt 0% · guest 100%6:00 · Matt 0% · guest 100%9:00 · Matt 0% · guest 100%9:00 · Matt 0% · guest 100%12:00 · Matt 0% · guest 100%12:00 · Matt 0% · guest 100%15:00 · Matt 17.2% · guest 82.8%15:00 · Matt 17.2% · guest 82.8%18:00 · Matt 7.3% · guest 92.7%18:00 · Matt 7.3% · guest 92.7%21:00 · Matt 1.4% · guest 98.6%21:00 · Matt 1.4% · guest 98.6%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 4:55 Critiquing social media superficial consent policies

Natalie forcefully rejects the notion that legal disclaimers equal trust, criticizing platforms for ignoring ethics behind consent forms.

 Hardest push from Matt ▶ 16:57 Matt challenges grassroots scope against executive pressure

Matt questions the purely bottom-up approach, pushing Natalie on how data scientists can resist top-down organizational pressure.

 Biggest teaching moment ▶ 5:25 Compliance as the floor rather than ceiling

Natalie educates the audience that legal compliance standards like GDPR represent the bare minimum floor rather than the ideal ceiling of ethical practice.

 Matt holds his own ▶ 16:57 Matt raises corporate tension between executives and practitioners

Matt brings informed perspective on the institutional trade-offs and pressure data scientists face from corporate executives.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicMatt as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementMatt pushing backWhy
The Data Revolution and Inflated Expectations 0000 In this monologue segment, Natalie introduces herself and discusses the hype cycle of data expectations. Because the host does not speak or participate, host scores are set to zero.
Three Foundational Premises for Responsible Data Practices 0000 Natalie details her three foundational premises regarding human-centered data, trust, and organizational culture. The host does not speak in this segment.
Grassroots Development of Ethical Data Sharing Principles 0000 Natalie presents the grassroots effort co-founded with Bloomberg and Data for Democracy to build ethical data standards. The host is silent throughout this segment.
Core Ethical Principles and Inspiring Community-Driven Action 0000 Natalie discusses practical application of ethics and quotes Barbara Jordan regarding grassroots community action. Because it is a solo presentation, host scores remain zero.
Moderated Discussion on Executive Engagement and Organizational Ethics 2202 Matt Turck asks whether the initiative reaches C-suite executives who pressure data scientists. Natalie collaboratively explains how companies and non-profits adopt their ethical frameworks.
Audience Q&A on Ethics in Education and Concluding Remarks 0200 An audience member asks about teaching ethics in engineering programs, and Natalie shares strategies including Kathy O'Neil's ethical matrix. Matt provides standard closing remarks.

Statements from this episode (7)

Assertion Not checkable as stated
Natalie Evans-Harris: Data sharing MOUs take six months and expire yearly
“Policies are really limiting how much data can come together, so we still have to pay for it to be siloed, and we have to do MOUs that take six months, To put in place and are only good for a year and only good to share with the person sitting next to you.”
Natalie Evans-Harris May 22, 2018 ▶ 3:47
Insight
Evans-Harris: GDPR compliance is the floor for data ethics, not the ceiling
“Often when we think about ethics, we think about the regulations, GDPR, the Privacy Act, all of those things, and we treat that as the ceiling. It is not, it's the floor.”
Natalie Evans-Harris May 22, 2018 ▶ 7:29
Insight
Evans-Harris: Data practitioners know best what should be done ethically
“The people who know best about what should be done ethically are the people who have to do it.”
Natalie Evans-Harris May 22, 2018 ▶ 8:32
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Evans-Harris: Data scientists want to act responsibly but lack practical guidance
“Because what many of the data scientists that we spoke with just said was, it's not that I don't want to behave ethically or responsibly, it's I don't want to know what that looks like. And two, I don't know what to do if something bad happens.”
Natalie Evans-Harris May 22, 2018 ▶ 12:31
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Evans-Harris: Funders now require data ethics guarantees before granting money
“When we talk to them, that's one of the first questions they ask now. Is how are you making sure that this data is being used responsibly and protected? So I see it more on that side of nonprofits and funders saying, I don't want to give you money if you haven…”
Natalie Evans-Harris May 22, 2018 ▶ 19:16
Opinion
Evans-Harris: Every data practitioner needs an individual ethical matrix
“There isn't anybody that should be coming out of school or using people's personal data that doesn't have their own individual matrix to follow.”
Natalie Evans-Harris May 22, 2018 ▶ 22:07
Insight
Evans-Harris: Testing candidates on ethics without internal enforcement is hypocritical
“I think it'd be really hypocritical of you to do that if you're not actually enforcing it in your organization.”
Natalie Evans-Harris May 22, 2018 ▶ 22:54
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