Shipper: Non-programmers will soon run software businesses via new formats
Dan Shipper · The AI-native startup: 5 products, 7-figure revenue, 100% AI-written code. | Dan Shipper (Every) · Jul 17, 2025 · at 56:40
Dan Shipper is co-founder and CEO of Every, discussing the timeline for non-engineers building software products using AI tools.
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“While I will definitely maintain that we're not anywhere close to anybody being able to like build a conventional SaaS app with zero programming knowledge, aside from just like a demo, there are going to be other forms of software. One of my things is like software is becoming content. There's going to be other forms of software that don't look like the software today, but you can run, start and run as a business, as a non-technical person, even if you don't know how to code and that'll happen very soon.”
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