SAFE

8 statements across 2 episodes · 0 bullish · 4 bearish · 2 people on the record · first statement Aug 21, 2022 by Marty Cagan · said 1 times in 1 episodes since 2024 · across every show →

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Aug 21, 2022 negative
Opinion
Cagan: SAFe offers no value and is just repackaged waterfall
“And that's why you see, like you might look at something like safe and say, are these people fricking crazy? Are they nuts? There is no good there. It is just all, it's just repackaged waterfall.”
Marty Cagan Aug 21, 2022 ▶ 56:26 The nature of product | Marty Cagan, Silicon Valley Product Group
Nov 10, 2024 negative
Opinion
Perri: SAFe fails because it ignores product discovery and value connection
“And that's what I think SAFE was trying to do, but it's not working because it's not solving the problems of the product management, and it's not solving that problem of connecting the value Back to the product teams. Instead, it's seen as a role that almost l…”
Melissa Perri Nov 10, 2024 ▶ 44:29 Everything you’ve ever wanted to know about SAFe and the product owner role | Melissa Perri
Nov 10, 2024 negative
Assertion Contradicted
Perri: A Dutch water company went bankrupt adopting SAFe
“There's actually a great story about a water company in the Netherlands, right? And they decided to adopt safe. And this is, this was on the news like a couple months ago. They decided to adopt safe in their IT teams and start working with it. And they're they…”
Melissa Perri Nov 10, 2024 ▶ 50:18 Everything you’ve ever wanted to know about SAFe and the product owner role | Melissa Perri
Nov 10, 2024 negative
Assertion Supported
Perri: McKinsey created a division to introduce SAFe to enterprises
“McKinsey made a huge division to do this. And a lot of safe was actually introduced to organizations from McKinsey and from large organizations. Consulting organizations like that.”
Melissa Perri Nov 10, 2024 ▶ 1:18:41 Everything you’ve ever wanted to know about SAFe and the product owner role | Melissa Perri
Nov 10, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Perri: Capital One eliminated all Agile and Scrum roles
“Capital One just came out and said they got rid of all their Agile roles, all their Scrum roles. They were an early adopter of safe. They don't do it anymore.”
Melissa Perri Nov 10, 2024 ▶ 36:05 Everything you’ve ever wanted to know about SAFe and the product owner role | Melissa Perri
Nov 10, 2024 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Perri: Enterprise adoption of SAFe is not slowing down
“I have not seen SAFE slowing down by any means out there for people adopting it. I see more and more organizations adopting it.”
Melissa Perri Nov 10, 2024 ▶ 39:27 Everything you’ve ever wanted to know about SAFe and the product owner role | Melissa Perri
Nov 10, 2024 neutral
Opinion
Perri: Executives buy SAFe because it is the only plug-and-play framework
“Executives buy SAFE because it is the only framework out there that basically draws them a map and says, plug and play, do this. And that's why everybody's so excited about it because it's the only thing that specifies things to this level.”
Melissa Perri Nov 10, 2024 ▶ 36:42 Everything you’ve ever wanted to know about SAFe and the product owner role | Melissa Perri
Nov 10, 2024 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Perri: Everyone successful with SAFe ripped it up and altered it
“Every single person I have talked to Who like safe found success with safe. They ended up ripping it up and making it into something else. So I'm like, it's not actually safe by the book.”
Melissa Perri Nov 10, 2024 ▶ 49:30 Everything you’ve ever wanted to know about SAFe and the product owner role | Melissa Perri
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