Sep 26, 2024 · 41m · founders
Nick & Zak’s Excellent Adventure: How Nick Sleep & Qais Zakaria Built Their Partnership
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Host David Senra explores the history and philosophy of Nick Sleep and Qais Zakaria's Nomad Investment Partnership through William Green's book 'Richer, Wiser, Happier.' The episode highlights how radical simplicity, extreme concentration, and the mastery of the 'scale economies shared' model generated extraordinary long-term investment success.
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David as informed peer 0.0 Guest teaching 0.0 Guest disagreement 0.0 David pushing back 0.0
speaking balance: gold is David, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 0:00 Monologue episode - no combativeness
This is a solo presentation by David Senra analyzing a biographical chapter, so there is no guest interaction or combativeness present.
Hardest push from David ▶ 0:00 Monologue episode - no pushbackBecause the entire episode is a solo monologue by the host, no conversational pushback or challenge occurs.
Biggest teaching moment ▶ 0:00 Monologue episode - no guest schoolingThere is no guest present to correct or educate the host in real time.
David holds their own ▶ 0:00 Monologue episode - no host rebuttalIn a solo host format without debate or dialogue, no host rebuttal or hits back dynamic exists.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
| Chapter | Topic | David as informed peer | Guest teaching | Guest disagreement | David pushing back | Why |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Nick Sleep’s Early Career and Philosophy of Quality | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Solo host monologue detailing Nick Sleep's early background, reading of Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, and foundational philosophy. As a solo presentation, interactive power dynamics are absent. | |
| Qais Zakaria’s Upbringing, Hardship, and Early Lessons | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Solo host monologue recounting Qais Zakaria's early life in Iraq, family bankruptcy, and career entry into finance. No interview interaction occurs. | |
| Marathon Asset Management and the 1997 Asian Financial Crisis | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Solo narrative explaining how Nick Sleep and Qais Zakaria connected at Marathon Asset Management during the 1997 Asian financial crisis. | |
| Pilgrimage to Omaha and the Launch of Nomad | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Host monologue exploring their trip to Omaha to see Warren Buffett and the subsequent founding of the Nomad Investment Partnership. | |
| Destination Analysis, Quality, and Living Life in the Driver’s Seat | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Solo presentation covering destination analysis, intentional disconnection from ephemeral news, and maintaining control over one's life and firm. | |
| The Stagecoach Mistake and the Pivot Away from Cigar Butts | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Solo monologue reviewing the Stagecoach investment mistake and the transition away from deep value 'cigar butt' investing toward high-quality compounders. | |
| Uncovering 'Scale Economies Shared' Through Costco | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Solo host discussion detailing Nomad's analysis of Costco and the discovery of the 'scale economies shared' business model. | |
| Historical Precedents of Scale Economies Shared as an Earned Secret | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Solo host narrative linking scale economies shared across business history, citing Walmart, Henry Ford, and Nebraska Furniture Mart as earned secrets. | |
| Backing Amazon and the Concept of Compounding Knowledge | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Solo presentation regarding Nomad's high-conviction investment in Amazon and the power of compounding encyclopedic knowledge over time. | |
| Independent Spin-Out, the 2008 Crisis, and Nomad's Wind-Down | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Solo host conclusion covering the 2008 drawdown, fund dissolution in 2014, and Nick Sleep's personal portfolio management in retirement. |
Statements from this episode (20)
Nomad Investment Partnership Generated a 10x Return Over 14 Years
“Over about 14 years, They wind up 10 X-ing the money.”
Sleep and Zakaria Returned Investor Capital and Retired at Age 45
“In 2014, Sleep and Zack returned their shareholder money and retired as fund managers at the ripe old age of 45.”
Sleep Concentrated Capital Into Three Stocks, Holding 70% in One
“Sleep, with characteristic indifference to conventional opinion, invested almost all of his fortune in just three stocks. At times, he and Zack had as much as 70% of their money in a single stock.”
Marathon Invested $500 Million in Southeast Asia During the 1997 Crisis
“In less than a year, Marathon invested about five hundred million dollars in Southeast Asia and made a killing as the region rebounded.”
During the 1997 Crisis, Asian Stocks Dropped to 0.25x Replacement Cost
“Pre Asian financial crisis, stocks were trading at like three times the replacement cost of their assets. During the crisis, they were buying those exact same stocks for one quarter of the replacement cost of their assets.”
Ephemeral Information Distracts Investors Because It Has a Perishable Shelf Life
“Ephemeral information distracts investors, or entrepreneurs, or really anybody, from what matters. Nick notes that information like food has a sell-by date. Some information is especially perishable, while some information has a long shelf life.”
Sleep and Zakaria Barred Broker Sales Calls for Independent Research
“Nick and Zach told stockbrokers that it was pointless calling them with sales pitches since they relied on their own research to reach independent conclusions.”
Destination Analysis Evaluates Today's Management By a 20-Year Business Outcome
“Number one, what is the intended destination for this business in 10 or 20 years? Number two, what must management be doing today to raise the probability of arriving at that destination? Number three, and what could prevent this company from reaching such a f…”
The Primary Motivator for Entrepreneurs Is Control, Not Money
“A lot of people think, in my opinion, a lot of people that are not entrepreneurs think the main motivator for entrepreneurs is money, and I would argue it's control. It's control of what you work on, how you spend your time, who's around you.”
Nomad Partnership Entirely Avoided Leverage, Shorting, and Macroeconomic Trading
“Nomad never used leverage, never shorted a stock, never speculated with options or futures, never made a macroeconomic bet, never traded hyperactively in response to the latest news, never dabbled in exotic financial instruments.”
Nomad Sold Stagecoach at $0.90 Before It Rose Near Four Dollars
“Nick and Zach buy at 14 cents. They cash out when the stock rebounds to 90 cents, and they're like, wow, we got a six X return. But Stagecoach winds up being a way better business than they realized, and the stock shoots up to almost four bucks.”
Long-Term Investors Can Subcontract Capital Allocation to Great Company Managers
“If you're thinking rationally and thinking about the long-term, you can subcontract the capital allocation decisions to them. You don't have to be buying and selling shares.”
Costco Caps Product Markups at 15% Compared to 30% for Supermarkets
“Costco marked up its goods by no more than 15% above cost, while typical supermarket might markup prices up to 30%.”
The Scale Economies Shared Flywheel Turns Revenue Growth Into Lower Prices
“Increased revenues begets scale savings begets lower costs begets lower prices begets increased revenues.”
Scale-Sharing Businesses Compound by Returning Cost Savings to Consumers
“These formidably efficient firms kept costs low and passed most of their savings back to consumers who've reciprocated by doing more business with them.”
Amazon Saved $20,000 Annually by Removing Vending Machine Light Bulbs
“Amazon went so far as to save 20,000 dollars a year by removing the light bulbs from the vending machines in its offices.”
Nomad Aggressively Bought Amazon at $30 Per Share in 2005
“And so they start buying Amazon aggressively in 2005 around 30 dollars per share.”
Nomad Investment Partnership Returned 404% Over Four Years After 2008
“Over the next four years, Nomad returned 404%.”
Nomad Dissolved in 2014 With $3 Billion in Assets Under Management
“In early 2014, Nick and Zach dissolved the Nomad investment partnership. By then, it had grown to about three billion dollars in assets. I think it made two billion dollars for its investors.”
Nick Sleep Sold Half His Amazon Stake at $1,500 in 2018
“By 2018, Amazon had risen so much that it accounted for more than 70% of Nick's net worth. Nick began to worry. Could Amazon's market value grow to three or four trillion dollars or were there limits even to Amazon's greatness? He wasn't sure. So after 13 year…”