Citadel

includes Citadel Securities

18 statements across 3 episodes · 8 bullish · 0 bearish · 1 people on the record · first statement Apr 16, 2024 by David Senra · said 27 times in 2 episodes since 2024 · across every show →

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Everything said about Citadel, oldest first

Apr 16, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Senra: Ed Thorp was first Citadel LP and built first wearable computer
“He's an inventor of the first quantitative hedge fund. He was the first LP in the Citadel. He invented the first handheld computer with Claude Shannon.”
David Senra Apr 16, 2024 ▶ 56:26 Charlie Munger (the NEW Poor Charlie's Almanack)
Apr 22, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Citadel is historically the most profitable hedge fund of all time
“So the wonderful history of Citadel is how we are the most profitable hedge fund of all time.”
David Senra Apr 22, 2025 ▶ 31:40 Ken Griffin: Founder of Citadel and Citadel Securities
Apr 22, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Griffin says every quantitative edge from Citadel's early days is completely commoditized
“Everything we did in the early nineties is completely commoditized. That's just a profound fact. A huge competitive edge in 1990 is just trivial today.”
David Senra Apr 22, 2025 ▶ 19:53 Ken Griffin: Founder of Citadel and Citadel Securities
Apr 22, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Citadel receives approximately 100,000 job applications in a single year
“Citadel founded 35 years ago. Citadel Securities founded 23 years ago. And yet, you know, third, 23 and 35 years into his business, we have a 100,000 applicants for positions this year.”
David Senra Apr 22, 2025 ▶ 53:57 Ken Griffin: Founder of Citadel and Citadel Securities
Apr 22, 2025
Insight
Young professionals should maximize risk-taking early in their careers
“You should be risk seeking at this point in your life. So keep in mind, Ken started Citadel right out of college. This is a great moment to think about pursuing opportunities that have the maximal personal interest. You should go for it right here and right no…”
David Senra Apr 22, 2025 ▶ 9:14 Ken Griffin: Founder of Citadel and Citadel Securities
Apr 22, 2025
Insight
Executive judgment improves through high-volume repetition of decisions within core domains
“The more decisions of a similar nature, you can make the better at those decisions you become. So when we think about business activities far away from our core, I get much more anxious decisions within our core. I think we make pretty easily and pretty fluidl…”
David Senra Apr 22, 2025 ▶ 55:13 Ken Griffin: Founder of Citadel and Citadel Securities
Apr 22, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Citadel lost 50% of its equity in just 16 weeks during 2008
“In 2008, that tuition bill bill almost became getting expelled from school because we lost half our equity in 16 weeks in a firm. That had never had a double digit drawdown in 20 years.”
David Senra Apr 22, 2025 ▶ 33:23 Ken Griffin: Founder of Citadel and Citadel Securities
Apr 22, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Citadel interviewed several hundred Enron employees following its bankruptcy
“Citadel probably interviewed several hundred Enron employees.”
David Senra Apr 22, 2025 ▶ 0:55 Ken Griffin: Founder of Citadel and Citadel Securities
Apr 22, 2025 positive
Insight
Griffin says the glory is in research; trading just monetizes it
“The glory is in the research is exactly what he says. He says the glory is in the research. Trading is the monetization of that research.”
David Senra Apr 22, 2025 ▶ 21:36 Ken Griffin: Founder of Citadel and Citadel Securities
Apr 22, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Quant pioneer Ed Thorp was Citadel's first limited partner
“Citadel grew from a humble start in 1990 and he says, I became its first limited partner. So that adds to, you know, Ed Dorp's financial lore. It's the first LP in Citadel.”
David Senra Apr 22, 2025 ▶ 4:43 Ken Griffin: Founder of Citadel and Citadel Securities
Apr 22, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Griffin requires Citadel employees to read out-of-print strategy book 'Hardball'
“In this talk at Yale, he recommends a few books. And one of them is this book that I've heard that he makes people at Citadel or strongly recommends people at Citadel read. It's called, it's really hard to find. It's out of print. It's called hardball. Are you…”
David Senra Apr 22, 2025 ▶ 6:20 Ken Griffin: Founder of Citadel and Citadel Securities
Apr 22, 2025 positive
Insight
Companies must aim to win by a landslide to prevent competitor comebacks
“In business, you don't play to win. You play to win by a landslide. If you don't win by a landslide, then your competitors come back.”
David Senra Apr 22, 2025 ▶ 58:56 Ken Griffin: Founder of Citadel and Citadel Securities
Apr 22, 2025 positive
Insight
Interviewing all competitor employees reveals their business model and edge
“Interview everyone and you get a 360 degree perspective of the industry, how the business makes money, its competitive edge, who the best employees are, etc.”
David Senra Apr 22, 2025 ▶ 0:46 Ken Griffin: Founder of Citadel and Citadel Securities
Apr 22, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Griffin modeled Citadel's 30-foot headquarters risk wall after Saudi Aramco's facility
“Where did the idea for the risk wall come from? It came because he went to Saudi Aramco's headquarters in Saudi Arabia.”
David Senra Apr 22, 2025 ▶ 1:01:15 Ken Griffin: Founder of Citadel and Citadel Securities
Apr 22, 2025 positive
Insight
During severe crises, organizations must delegate decisions to those remaining mentally composed
“Make sure you push your decision-making to those who are mentally in the game in the right way, because some people just, if it's their first adversity, they're like the proverbial deer in the headlights.”
David Senra Apr 22, 2025 ▶ 37:24 Ken Griffin: Founder of Citadel and Citadel Securities
Apr 22, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Citadel achieved its most profitable years over three decades after its founding
“Citadel was founded 35 years ago. Citadel Securities was founded 23 years ago. His best and most profitable years have come in the last like three to four.”
David Senra Apr 22, 2025 ▶ 48:11 Ken Griffin: Founder of Citadel and Citadel Securities
Apr 22, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Citadel hired Enron's entire quant team post-bankruptcy and made $30 billion
“Now, the great part of this story is I hired the entire leadership team of the quantitative research effort at Enron, all the people who actually knew how the place worked, and we've made thirty billion dollars in commodities since then.”
David Senra Apr 22, 2025 ▶ 36:13 Ken Griffin: Founder of Citadel and Citadel Securities
Oct 5, 2025 neutral
Assertion Contradicted
Mid-2000s market makers spent hundreds of millions to shave microseconds
“By the mid-two thousand, market makers like Citadel were spending hundreds of millions of dollars on microwave towers and fiber optic cables in a bid to shave microseconds off execution times.”
David Senra Oct 5, 2025 ▶ 27:11 The Billionaire Who Automates Everything: Thomas Peterffy
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