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Söderström: Spotify's biggest product risk is shipping its org chart to users
“Because we have a single experience strategy, our strategy is literally a super app. We try to build first music, then podcasts, and books, and more things into a single product. I think our biggest risk is to ship the org chart. So if we divide it and say, ev…”
Gustav Söderström Jun 7, 2026 ▶ 9:26 The Company Apple Couldn't Kill | Spotify Co-CEO Gustav Söderström
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Söderström: Functional orgs dissolve into politics without long-tenured executive trust
“The only answer I've come to as I've spoken to people there is that it actually has to do with tenure of leadership, which is one of the principles I've also tried to internalize Spotify. So they have very long tenure at the senior leadership, which means that…”
Gustav Söderström Jun 7, 2026 ▶ 11:27 The Company Apple Couldn't Kill | Spotify Co-CEO Gustav Söderström
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Söderström: Technology alone cannot drive change without contrarian business models
“I believe that technology is a necessary ingredient for change. But not sufficient. I think you can cause havoc with technology, like piracy, but when things really change is when you take a new technology and marry it with a new, often contrarian business mod…”
Gustav Söderström Jun 7, 2026 ▶ 50:39 The Company Apple Couldn't Kill | Spotify Co-CEO Gustav Söderström
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Söderström: External corporate hires won't challenge founders without long-built trust
“You can't expect someone to come in, especially if they come from corporate America and expect them to like stand up to you, because usually there are consequences. You just get fired.”
Gustav Söderström Jun 7, 2026 ▶ 1:04:11 The Company Apple Couldn't Kill | Spotify Co-CEO Gustav Söderström
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Söderström: Companies only capture or lose significant market share during macro changes
“When things are stable, market share stays stable. You don't eat market share. So when there's change, there's risk. You can lose market share, but that is also when you have the most opportunity to eat market share. If you adopt the change.”
Gustav Söderström Jun 7, 2026 ▶ 1:12:41 The Company Apple Couldn't Kill | Spotify Co-CEO Gustav Söderström
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Söderström: Subscriptions align with user value while ad models maximize time spent
“What you pay for when you vote with your wallet every month, you're not going to pay for your engagement or time spent. You're going to pay for the value you feel, right? If you feel that this was time well spent, if you feel that this was high value, you're g…”
Gustav Söderström Jun 7, 2026 ▶ 32:50 The Company Apple Couldn't Kill | Spotify Co-CEO Gustav Söderström
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Söderström: Long employee tenure maximizes leadership honesty and shared context
“So one benefit of tenure is the trust. People keep you honest, unless you know, you become too full of yourself, which is always a risk with success. But the other benefit is this efficiency. Of like, people know. You don't have to give as much context.”
Gustav Söderström Jun 7, 2026 ▶ 1:06:04 The Company Apple Couldn't Kill | Spotify Co-CEO Gustav Söderström
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Söderström: Companies optimizing for tenure must mitigate stagnation and slow promotion
“So if you're optimized for tenure, you have to mitigate for the risk that you don't get fresh blood, that your career ladder is slow. So maybe people who are talented feel like, well, that's going to take 10 years to get up the career ladder. So then you have …”
Gustav Söderström Jun 7, 2026 ▶ 1:07:00 The Company Apple Couldn't Kill | Spotify Co-CEO Gustav Söderström
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