Software developer and 37signals co-founder DHH discusses Paul Graham's Maker vs. Manager schedule concept and his inability to work productively in open or interruption-heavy environments.
“If you're a builder and you get interrupted just a handful of times in a single day, that day is a waste, because you will never get into the flow. You will never get into this long stretch of uninterrupted time, and therefore you will not feel in the, not just mood, but moment to solve the deep problems you got to deal with.”
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