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Gurley: Defense Tech VCs Adopt Hawkish China Views to Help Portfolios
“Once you invest in something, you just start to adopt the mouthpiece for it and make a lot of arguments that are central to that company's success. And I think that's happening now that we have a large number of VCs in the military space.”
Bill Gurley May 22, 2025 ▶ 18:27 AI, Middle East, China, Tariffs, Recon Bill, Invest America | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Export controls on digital goods sold globally cannot work
“If you're gonna sell something in a 120 countries around the world and try and tell one country they can't have it. There's no effing way that's gonna work. Like, and especially these goods have digital attributes.”
Bill Gurley Apr 24, 2025 ▶ 31:59 Tariffs, Free Trade, Export Controls, H20 & Rare Earth Ban | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Hindering Foreign Competitors Weakens the US Long-Term
“Protecting the U.S. By trying to somehow injure or disable or hinder a competitor that's in a different country in the long run will make us weaker. I believe that fundamentally.”
Bill Gurley Mar 21, 2025 ▶ 19:19 NVDA GTC, M&A Wiz / Goog $32 B Deal, April 2 Tariff Uncertainty; Huawei Belt & Road; ChatGPT | BG2 · Bg2 Pod
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Ball: Mega-funds incentivize VCs to prioritize deploying capital over founder success
“And so now there's a path where investors, GPs get rich, where the outcome of the founders and their companies is irrelevant. Not to say they are aligned in opposite directions, but they're no longer aligned. And now, as a rational actor, you could say, why no…”
Jamin Ball Oct 31, 2024 ▶ 10:31 Ep19. State of Venture, AI Scaling, Elections | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner, & Jamin Ball · Bg2 Pod
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Huang: AI productivity gains lead to higher corporate growth, not layoffs
“The part that is overlooked is when companies become more productive, Using artificial intelligence. It is likely that it manifests itself into either better earnings, or better growth, or both. And when that happens, the next email from the CEO is likely not …”
Jensen Huang Oct 13, 2024 ▶ 1:02:52 Ep17. Welcome Jensen Huang | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Lafont: Government tech M&A blocks backfire and harm small companies
“What's weird to me is that the government By trying to protect small companies and not allowing big companies to buy small companies. So big companies get bigger. I think it's got the reverse effect where now small companies have one less chance of winning. An…”
Philippe Laffont Jun 22, 2024 ▶ 39:12 Ep11. Coatue Conference Recap, Tesla & ISS Controversy | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gerstner: Foundation Model Startups Cannot Compete Without Big Tech Backing
“If you're a founder and you want to compete in this, you know, in the model game, you know, and you don't have their backing, there is no, no chance.”
Brad Gerstner Jan 25, 2024 ▶ 20:26 BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner | MANG VC Gone Wild, Can You Trust AI Valuations? & More | E01 · Bg2 Pod
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Fox: Orbital Compute CapEx Is $5B/GW vs $20-25B Terrestrially
“The math you get to before you account for things like bad GPUs, bad satellites, right, these will all be things that happen, but the math you get to is it's about five billion dollars per gigawatt Of CapEx to put these in space. Right. For comparison, terrest…”
Andrew Fox Jun 11, 2026 ▶ 26:43 The SpaceX IPO, Fable 5, AI Capex Update & Market Check w/ Gavin Baker, Andrew Fox & Clark Tang · Bg2 Pod
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Turley: AI startups should deliver hands-on enterprise services
“If I was starting a company today, I, I'm really excited about these companies that are going into companies and getting extremely hands-on and doing effect effectively professional services with AI because we've saturated all the evals and you need to get pro…”
Nick Turley Mar 15, 2026 ▶ 53:28 ChatGPT – The Super Assistant Era | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
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Jain: 95% enterprise AI failure rate is desirable for tech experimentation
“The thing that I feel you know, is happening in enterprises, you hear these 95% of projects fail, But, like, you know, like, that's actually what you want. Like, you, like, when you are actually experimenting with new technology, if all of your projects are fa…”
Arvind Jain Dec 23, 2025 ▶ 2:30 AI Enterprise - Databricks & Glean | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
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Ghodsi: Desktop AI automation stalls because frozen models lack continuous learning
“The biggest problem is that you bake a model, and that's where it's learned everything it needs to learn, and then you freeze it, and then you launch it, and then maybe you give it some context, but that's it. It's frozen. So therein lies the problem that, you…”
Ali Ghodsi Dec 23, 2025 ▶ 13:25 AI Enterprise - Databricks & Glean | BG2 Guest Interview · Bg2 Pod
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Altman: AI scaling currently equates log of intelligence to log of compute
“Unfortunately, it's something closer to log of intelligence equals log of compute, but we may figure out better scaling laws, and we may figure out how to beat this.”
Sam Altman Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 17:31 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Nadella: At massive scale, nothing in cloud infrastructure is a commodity
“Everything is a commodity, right? Compute, storage. I remember everybody saying, wow, how can there be a margin? Except at scale, nothing is a commodity.”
Satya Nadella Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 48:24 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Nadella: High-ARPU, low-usage SaaS apps face disruption from AI
“And so I think the next generation of SaaS applications will have to sort of, if you are high ARPU, low usage, then you have a little bit of a problem. But if you are, we are the exact opposite. We are low ARPU, high usage.”
Satya Nadella Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 55:47 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Nadella: GitHub replicated over a decade of activity in just one year
“What GitHub did in the first, I don't know, 15 years of its existence or 10 years of its existence, it was basically done in the last year, just because coding is no longer a tool. It's more a substitute for wages somewhere.”
Satya Nadella Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 56:21 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Nadella: AI agents will replace seats in enterprise software monetization
“Whereas in the enterprise, one is it's not winner take all. And two, it is going to be a lot more friendly for agentic interaction. So it's not like, for example, the per seat versus consumption. The reality is agents are the new seats.”
Satya Nadella Oct 31, 2025 ▶ 1:03:30 All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Huang: AI Now Governed by Three Scaling Laws, Not One
“And so thinking, post-training, pre-training, we now have three scaling laws, not one.”
Jensen Huang Sep 26, 2025 ▶ 2:42 NVIDIA: OpenAI, Future of Compute, and the American Dream | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Huang: Chipmakers must co-design six to eight chips annually to beat wafer costs
“Wafer costs are getting higher, which means that unless you do co-design at an extreme scale, you're just not going to be able to deliver the x-factor growth, number one, number, and so you know, unless you, unless you're working on six, seven, eight chips a y…”
Jensen Huang Sep 26, 2025 ▶ 38:36 NVIDIA: OpenAI, Future of Compute, and the American Dream | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Huang: Operators will reject free AI chips to maximize performance per watt
“So even if they gave it to you for free, you only have two gigawatts to work with, your opportunity cost is so insanely high, you would always choose the best perf per watt.”
Jensen Huang Sep 26, 2025 ▶ 52:37 NVIDIA: OpenAI, Future of Compute, and the American Dream | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Open-source ecosystems reduce the chance of breakout tech monopolists
“I do think you end up with a higher fitness level for a community that's behaving that way. Overall, you may end up with a lot less chance of a breakout monopolist, like we've had in many of the sectors in American technology.”
Bill Gurley Jul 31, 2025 ▶ 13:06 China Open-Source, Compute Arms Race, Reordering Global Trade | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gerstner: OpenAI should subsidize developer models using consumer profits
“Amazon had this monopoly retail business they could use to subsidize AWS, gain share for a decade, and then begin to take price. That would be a rational strategy for OpenAI to follow. So you take the profitable consumer business, you use it to subsidize, you …”
Brad Gerstner Jul 31, 2025 ▶ 39:20 China Open-Source, Compute Arms Race, Reordering Global Trade | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gerstner: AI Model Layer Is Commoditizing, Value Accrues to Applications
“What that tells me is the model layers being increasingly commoditized. And that there's not going to be a lot of intrinsic value in, in, in that intelligence layer, that operating layer. You're going to have to build applications that guys like Bill Gurley an…”
Brad Gerstner Jul 31, 2025 ▶ 45:52 China Open-Source, Compute Arms Race, Reordering Global Trade | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Laffont: ChatGPT lacks inherent virality unlike historical consumer apps
“I guess, by the way, those apps had inherent virality, as you know. I mean, you're kind of the expert of that. This doesn't. This has no virality to it.”
Thomas Laffont Jun 20, 2025 ▶ 21:39 Coatue’s Laffont Brothers. AI, Public & VC Mkts, Macro, US Debt, Crypto, IPO's, & more | BG2 · Bg2 Pod
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Laffont: AI compute tokens will outweigh the economic impact of trade tariffs
“I like to say that tokens trump tariffs.”
Philippe Laffont Jun 20, 2025 ▶ 31:02 Coatue’s Laffont Brothers. AI, Public & VC Mkts, Macro, US Debt, Crypto, IPO's, & more | BG2 · Bg2 Pod
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Laffont: 2.5%–3.5% Productivity Growth Can Lower US Debt-to-GDP
“If productivity for the next decade or so was about two and a half to three and a half percent per year, we could achieve substantial reductions in this key ratio Of debt to GDP.”
Philippe Laffont Jun 20, 2025 ▶ 32:29 Coatue’s Laffont Brothers. AI, Public & VC Mkts, Macro, US Debt, Crypto, IPO's, & more | BG2 · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Low-growth $50M–$100M companies must increase risk rather than protect multiples
“One of the big thing, problems I think they have is having, you survive to this point, and having succeeded, let's say they have revenue of 50 to a hundred million dollars, they feel like they need to protect something, and it puts them on the back foot, not t…”
Bill Gurley Jun 20, 2025 ▶ 59:06 Coatue’s Laffont Brothers. AI, Public & VC Mkts, Macro, US Debt, Crypto, IPO's, & more | BG2 · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: China deprioritizes company market caps in its economic policy
“There does seem to be in China, and I, and part three of this research walks through this, a deprioritization of market cap of successful companies.”
Bill Gurley Jun 6, 2025 ▶ 20:56 China, AI Immigration, Rare Earths & Chips, Tariffs, Markets | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Export bans incentivize foreign rivals to develop competing technology
“And so by denying your exports to a market, You increase the incentive they have to develop their own technology.”
Bill Gurley Apr 24, 2025 ▶ 28:02 Tariffs, Free Trade, Export Controls, H20 & Rare Earth Ban | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Companies ready to IPO should not wait for ideal market conditions
“Anyone that tells you when you're ready to go public that you have to wait on the markets to be in a particular place. I would tell them to shut the fuck up and like take your company out. Like you can't control that thing. That's an external factor.”
Bill Gurley Apr 4, 2025 ▶ 54:38 Liberation Day, Tariffs, US v China Open Source, OpenAI, $CRWV, TikTok | BG2 · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Backing repeat enterprise founders riding new tech shifts drives peak venture success
“Repeat entrepreneurs in the enterprise space are a golden ticket. Like it is so, there are so many learned experiences about go, mostly I think about go to market that are repeatable, that you can line them up and do it again.”
Bill Gurley Mar 21, 2025 ▶ 32:59 NVDA GTC, M&A Wiz / Goog $32 B Deal, April 2 Tariff Uncertainty; Huawei Belt & Road; ChatGPT | BG2 · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Negative-Margin Startups Subsidize Compute and Triple-Count AI Industry Revenue
“If those second layer and the third layer are both negative gross margin, the consumer's buying compute from the hyperscaler at a price that's lower than they would if they bought it directly because it's being subsidized by two players in the middle. And on t…”
Bill Gurley Mar 21, 2025 ▶ 1:14:58 NVDA GTC, M&A Wiz / Goog $32 B Deal, April 2 Tariff Uncertainty; Huawei Belt & Road; ChatGPT | BG2 · Bg2 Pod
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Gerstner: Stargate's 2025 Buildout Needs Only ~$3B in Equity
“Out of the thirteen billion dollars of capex required, you know, if you make an assumption about 25 75 or 30 70 equity to debt, that probably requires like a three billion dollar equity check.”
Brad Gerstner Jan 23, 2025 ▶ 9:59 Stargate, Executive Orders, TikTok, DOGE, Public Valuations | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gerstner: AI power stocks are derivative bets; buy Nvidia instead
“And so I would always ask my analysts when they would bring me a power company, I would say, why is that better than NVIDIA? Right? It's a derivative NVIDIA. It's the exact same bet. So why not just buy more NVIDIA?”
Brad Gerstner Jan 11, 2025 ▶ 42:18 Market Predictions, Rates & Inflation, DOGE, CES, AI Compute | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gerstner: Superior reasoning architecture beats raw compute scale in AI
“Like you can have the best computers and chips and biggest cluster in the world. But if you don't get the architecture right around your reasoning model and the other guy does, they're probably going to win.”
Brad Gerstner Jan 11, 2025 ▶ 1:12:41 Market Predictions, Rates & Inflation, DOGE, CES, AI Compute | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Patel: NVIDIA's inference moat relies on hardware rather than software
“NVIDIA's moat in, in inference is actually A lot smaller on software but it's a lot bigger on, hey, they just have the best hardware.”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 13:53 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Patel: Synthetic data generation enables continued AI scaling despite data limits
“You can create data out of thin air almost, right? In certain domains, right? And so this is the whole, the debate around scaling laws is how can we create data?”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 25:25 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Patel: Multi-gigawatt buildouts disprove claims that AI scaling is over
“Why is Mark Zuckerberg building a two gigawatt data center in Louisiana? Why is Amazon building these multi gigawatt data centers? Why is Google, why is Microsoft building multiple gigawatt data centers? Plus buying billions and billions of dollars of fiber to…”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 37:39 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Patel: AI pre-training gains are becoming logarithmically more expensive
“So, the whole paradigm of training, you know, pre-training is, is, is not slowing down. It's just, it's logarithmically more expensive each, for each generation, for each incremental improvement.”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 40:22 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Patel: Reasoning models like OpenAI o1 increase compute costs by 50x
“When I do this with O-one, right, because it's doing that thinking phase of 10,000... It spends a lot of memory on generating this KV cache and reading this KV cache constantly. Now the maximum batch size, i.e. Concurrent users I can have, is a fraction of tha…”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 49:24 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Nadella: Terms of Use Cannot Prevent Competitors From Distilling AI Models
“It's just impossible. It's kind of like piracy, right? I mean, you can sort of all kinds of terms of use, but it's impossible to control distillation.”
Satya Nadella Dec 12, 2024 ▶ 1:04:36 Satya Nadella | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Nadella: AI Network Effects Reside in the App Layer, Not Models
“The network effects are in the app layer. So why would I want to spend a lot on some model capability with the network effects are all on the app layer?”
Satya Nadella Dec 12, 2024 ▶ 1:05:04 Satya Nadella | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Compounding IPO ratchets misalign cap tables against employees and early investors
“Now, the reason I hate these things is they create misalignment. So you have a bunch of investors on a cap chart and now they have differing incentives. The later stage investors that wrote this compounding ratchet term I actually want the IPO to be as low as …”
Bill Gurley Nov 27, 2024 ▶ 12:19 BG2 Thanksgiving Roundtable: DOGE, EV Tax Credit, Tariffs, Conspiracy Theories, Invest America · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Tax negative externalities rather than subsidizing EV purchases
“If you want it sent moving to electric and getting rid of the big gas guzzlers, you know, tax what's negative rather than trying to pay people for what you think they want. It just creates more perverse behavior.”
Bill Gurley Nov 27, 2024 ▶ 18:01 BG2 Thanksgiving Roundtable: DOGE, EV Tax Credit, Tariffs, Conspiracy Theories, Invest America · Bg2 Pod
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Ball: Startups with excess capital inevitably dilute focus across too many initiatives
“Every founder and every company and every board will tell you if we raise money, we're not going to spend it. We're going to stay frugal. That never happens. And instead of focusing on, you might ask a founder, what are the three things that matter most this y…”
Jamin Ball Oct 31, 2024 ▶ 13:48 Ep19. State of Venture, AI Scaling, Elections | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner, & Jamin Ball · Bg2 Pod
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Gerstner: $5B–$10B Mega-Funds Cannot Generate 4x–5x Returns by Diversifying Across 100 Companies
“If you're aiming for traditional venture like returns, then I don't think there are a hundred growth companies, right? That you can go put in a fund of five or ten billion dollars equally weight them and get a four to five X over any reasonable period of time.”
Brad Gerstner Oct 31, 2024 ▶ 37:55 Ep19. State of Venture, AI Scaling, Elections | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner, & Jamin Ball · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: Direct AI transaction completion will reduce revenue per visit
“Their revenue per visit is going to fall if they complete the transaction. Because someone is spending marketing dollars to take that customer to their website and run the transaction with the hopes that they'll come directly back to that website. So they'll s…”
Bill Gurley Oct 31, 2024 ▶ 1:01:53 Ep19. State of Venture, AI Scaling, Elections | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner, & Jamin Ball · Bg2 Pod
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Gurley: AI productivity gains will be competed away across most industries
“The real answer is the companies that don't deploy these things are going to go out of business. And so I think margins get competed away in many, many cases. I think it's ridiculous to imagine, oh, every company goes to 60%.”
Bill Gurley Oct 13, 2024 ▶ 48:34 Ep18. Jensen Recap - Competitive Moat, X.AI, Smart Assistant | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Huang: Accelerated parallel computing cannot rely on generic compilers across architectures
“What people don't realize is that you can have, ah, three different ISAs, CPU ISAs, they all have their own C compilers, you could take software and compile down to that ISA. That's not possible in accelerated computing. That's not possible in parallel computi…”
Jensen Huang Oct 13, 2024 ▶ 14:33 Ep17. Welcome Jensen Huang | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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