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Patel: Initial NVIDIA GPU cloud deployments suffer a 5% failure rate
“Google's brought in a level of reliability that NVIDIA GPUs don't have. You know, the dirty secret is to go ask people what the reliability rate of GPUs is in the cloud or in a deployment. It's like, oh God, it is not, they're reliable-ish, like, but like, esp…”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 1:11:54 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Patel: Meta and Microsoft may take free cash flows close to zero
“I think Meta and Microsoft may even take their free cash flows close to zero and just spent.”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 1:24:40 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Patel: NVIDIA's Jensen Huang only plans 12 to 18 months ahead
“Well, the funny thing is a lot of people at NVIDIA will say Jensen doesn't plan more than a year or year and a half out. Because they change things and they'll deploy them out that fast, right? No semi, every other semiconductor company takes years to deploy, …”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 12:58 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Partly supported
Patel: NVIDIA is cutting Blackwell margins to compete with custom ASICs
“Like with Blackwell, not only is it way, way, way faster, anywhere from 10 to 15 times on really large models for inference, because they've optimized it for very large language models, they've also decided, hey, we're gonna cut our margin, too, somewhat, beca…”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 14:16 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Patel: AI models may improve faster over the next 6-12 months
“We may actually see models improve faster in the next six months to a year than we saw them improve in the last year. Because there's this new axis of synthetic data generation and the amount of compute we can throw at it is, we're still right here in the scal…”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 33:00 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Patel: AI labs have tapped out human-written internet text data
“Humans post on the internet every day, and we've already tapped that out, right? Kind of more or less on a text.”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 35:05 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Patel: Reasoning models will see humongous performance gains within a year
“And so this, the performance improvements we'll get out of these models is, is humongous, right? In, in the coming, you know, six months to a year in certain benchmarks where you have functional verifiers.”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 53:01 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Patel: Microsoft earns 50% to 70% gross margins on OpenAI models
“Microsoft's earning 50 to 70% gross margins on OpenAI models, and that's with the profit share they get to get, or the share that they give OpenAI, right?”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 55:53 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Partly supported
Patel: Samsung holds almost zero share in HBM memory, especially at NVIDIA
“In HBM, Samsung has almost no share, right? Especially at NVIDIA”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 1:03:16 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Patel: Standard high-end server memory yields higher gross margins than HBM
“The gross margins on HBM have not been fantastic. They've been good, but they haven't been fantastic. Actually, regular memory, high-end, like, server memory that is not HBM is actually higher gross margin than HBM.”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 1:05:08 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Patel: AMD will see less AI revenue from Microsoft and Meta in 2025
“Yes, I think they'll have they'll have a lot less success with Microsoft than they did this year. And they'll have less success than they did with Meta than they did this year.”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 1:10:01 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Patel: Apple accounts for over 70% of Google's TPU rental revenue
“There's only one company accounts for over 70% of Google's revenue from TPUs as far as I understand, and that's Apple.”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 1:14:35 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Supported
Patel: Broadcom holds custom ASIC wins with Meta, OpenAI, and Apple
“Broadcom does have multiple custom ASIC wins, right? It's not just Google here. Meta's, Meta's ramping up mostly still for recommendation systems, but their custom chips are gonna get better. You know, there's other players like OpenAI who are making a chip, r…”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 1:18:20 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Supported
Patel: Broadcom is building an NVSwitch competitor for AMD and others
“Broadcom is making a Competitors to that, that they will cede to the market, right? Multiple companies will be using that. Not just, you know, AMD will be using that competitor to NVSwitch, but they're not making it themselves because they don't have the skill…”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 1:19:47 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Patel: Google TPU purchases will pause for six months over space limits
“Like in the next six months there is a bit of a slowdown in Google TPU purchases because they have no data center space. They want more. They just literally have no data center space to put them.”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 1:20:28 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Patel: Only 5 to 10 of the 80 GPU NeoClouds will survive
“80 NeoClouds are not going to survive. Maybe five to 10 will. And that's because five of those are sovereign, right? And then the other five are like actually like market competitive.”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 1:22:59 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Patel: NVIDIA holds 98% of AI workloads outside Google, 70% overall
“So I would say if you ignored Google, it would be over 98%. But then when you bring Google into the mix, it's actually more like 70 because Google is really that large a percentage of AI workloads especially production workloads.”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 4:32 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Patel: Apple rents Google's TPU silicon, but GCP AI rentals remain GPUs
“While they do have some customers for their internal silicon externally, such as Apple the vast majority of their external rental business for AI in terms of cloud business is still GPUs.”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 6:42 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Supported
Patel: Microsoft runs GPT models on AMD hardware for inference
“Microsoft has deployed GPT-style models on On other competitors' hardware, such as AMD they've, and some of their own, but mostly AMD, and so they can wring that out with software because they can spend hundreds of engineers, dozens of engineers' hours hundred…”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 16:50 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Patel: AI training has barely tapped vast video data reserves
“We have barely, barely, barely tapped video data, right? So there is a significant amount of data that's not tapped, it's just video data Is so much more information than written data.”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 24:06 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Supported
Patel: Cisco was fueled by speculative debt whereas NVIDIA is cash-backed
“Cisco's revenue, a lot of it was funded through private-slash-credit investments into building out telecom infrastructure, right? When we look at NVIDIA's revenue sources, very little of it is private-slash-credit, right? And in some cases, yes, it's private-s…”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 42:35 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Supported
Patel: GPT-4 cost hundreds of millions to train, generates billions in revenue
“Hundreds of millions of dollars to train GPT-IV. And it's generating billions of dollars of revenue.”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 45:26 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Prediction Held up
Patel: Google and Anthropic will both release reasoning models soon
“There's a Google model that is doing reasoning right now, and it's not released yet, but it's gonna be released soon enough, right? Anthropic is going to release a reasoning model.”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 52:27 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Patel: Anthropic showed ~70% gross margins in its most recent round
“Or, you know, Anthropic, similarly, in their most recent round, they were showing, like, 70% gross margins.”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 56:01 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Contradicted
Patel: A quarter of Nvidia shipments could provide Llama-7B to humanity
“If you take one quarter of NVIDIA shipments and you said all of them are going to inference Lama-Seven-B, you can give every single person on earth a hundred tokens per minute, right? Or sorry, a hundred tokens per second. You give every single person on earth…”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 59:42 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Patel: SK Hynix memory is NVIDIA's largest COGS item, surpassing TSMC
“When you look at the cost of goods sold of NVIDIA their highest cost of goods sold is not TSMC, which is a Thing that people don't realize. It's actually HBM memory primarily SK Hynix.”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 1:02:27 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Partly supported
Patel: AWS Trainium2 offers highest HBM capacity and bandwidth per dollar
“Their whole thing at reInvent, if you really talk to them when they announced Trinium II and our whole post about it and our analysis of it is, like, supply chain-wise, this is, looks, you know, you squint your eyes, this looks like an Amazon Basics TPU, right…”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 1:06:02 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Supported
Patel: Google TPU clusters scale up to 8,000 chips today
“Nvidia's talking about GB 200, NVL 72, TPUs go to 8000 today, right?”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 1:11:30 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Patel: Amazon Trainium 2 costs ~$5,000 per chip versus $30,000+ for NVIDIA
“You're not paying, you know, north of 30,000, you know, 40,000 dollars per chip for the server, you're paying, you know, significantly less, right? 5000 dollars per chip, right?”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 1:16:23 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Supported
Patel: Amazon and Anthropic are building a 400,000-chip Trainium supercomputer
“Amazon and Anthropic have decided to, you know, make a 400,000 tranium server supercomputer, right? 400,000 chips, right?”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 1:16:50 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Prediction Held up
Patel: Hyperscalers will significantly boost capex in 2025, lifting chip suppliers
“The plans for hyperscalers are pretty firm on, they're gonna spend a crap load more next year, right? And therefore, the ecosystem of networking players, of ASIC vendors, of systems vendors is gonna do well, whether it be NVIDIA or Marvell or Broadcom or AMD o…”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 1:21:20 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Supported
Patel: Nvidia Blackwell costs over twice as much to manufacture as Hopper
“The cost to make Blackwell is north of two X that of the cost to make Hopper, right?”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 1:24:07 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Supported
Patel: Google has run transformers in Search workloads since 2018
“Google was running transformers even in their search workload since 2018, 2019. The advent of BERT, which was one of the most most well-known, most popular transformers before we got to the GPT madness is, has been their, in their production search workloads f…”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 5:36 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Patel: NVIDIA ships chips from design to deployment faster than competitors
“They get chips out faster than other people from Thought design to deployed.”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 7:26 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Open · timeframe Dec 2024
Patel: Google built rack-scale AI systems with Broadcom in 2018 before NVIDIA
“Google actually did this alongside Broadcom you know, and they did it before Nvidia, right? You know, today everyone's freaking out about, or not freaking out, but like everyone's like very excited about Nvidia's Blackwell system, right? It is a rack Of GPUs. …”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 9:24 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Patel: Tanking LLM delivery costs will induce demand for compute
“The cost for delivering LLMs is Is tanking, which is going to induce demand, right?”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 15:05 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Supported
Patel: IBM mainframes increase in volume and revenue every cycle
“IBM mainframe sell more volume and revenue every single cycle.”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 19:02 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Patel: Most AWS data center CPUs are Intel chips from 2015-2020
“The plurality of Amazon's CPUs in their data centers Are 24 core Intel CPUs from, that were manufactured from 2015 to twenty-twenty.”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 20:55 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Patel: AI industry is in early days of synthetic data
“Where have we gone on synthetic data? Oh, we're still like very early days, right? We've spent tens of millions of dollars maybe on synthetic data.”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 28:08 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Contradicted
Patel: Inflation-adjusted private capital at dot-com peak exceeded today's levels
“At the peak of the dot com, you know, especially once you inflation adjust it the private capital entering the space was much larger than it is today”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 43:01 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Patel: Hyperscalers represent 50% to 60% of AI chip revenue
“Roughly you can say hyperscalers are 50 ish percent of revenue, 50 to 60%, and the rest of it is Neo cloud slash sovereign AI.”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 1:23:16 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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Patel: SemiAnalysis tracks all 1,500 global semiconductor fabs
“We track all 1500 fabs in the world. For your purposes, only 50 of them matter, but like, you know, all 1500 fabs around the world.”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 3:01 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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