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Assertion Contradicted
Gurley: Anthropic and Eric Schmidt Pushed to Restrict Open-Source AI
“Anthropic and their investors like Eric Schmidt have been some of the people that have been encouraging, you know, more and more AI oversight and AI regulation and trying to make it such that open source AI would not be legal.”
Bill Gurley Nov 27, 2024 ▶ 28:49 BG2 Thanksgiving Roundtable: DOGE, EV Tax Credit, Tariffs, Conspiracy Theories, Invest America · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Baker: xAI's Google deal yields higher profit per GW than competitors
“He shows that XAI's deal with Google for cloud computing generates more operating profit per gigawatt than Anthropic, than Meta, than Google, than OpenAI.”
Gavin Baker Jun 11, 2026 ▶ 2:54 The SpaceX IPO, Fable 5, AI Capex Update & Market Check w/ Gavin Baker, Andrew Fox & Clark Tang · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Baker: Grok 4.3 was the most intelligent 500B parameter model in the world
“Grok 4.3 was on the Pareto frontier, and as of 10 or 12 days ago, and these things move fast, most intelligent, five hundred billion parameter model in the world. And they were on the frontier, and there are four companies on the frontier. XAI, SpaceX AI, Goog…”
Gavin Baker Jun 11, 2026 ▶ 34:16 The SpaceX IPO, Fable 5, AI Capex Update & Market Check w/ Gavin Baker, Andrew Fox & Clark Tang · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Gerstner: Anthropic achieved accidental profitability due to compute spending constraints
“Atropic, no way did they think they were going to be anywhere close to breakeven. Right? In, in, in, in this part of the curve. And the reason, like I called it accidental profitability that, you know, people have been talking about that because they want to s…”
Brad Gerstner Jun 11, 2026 ▶ 1:10:17 The SpaceX IPO, Fable 5, AI Capex Update & Market Check w/ Gavin Baker, Andrew Fox & Clark Tang · Bg2 Pod
Prediction Open · timeframe Jun 2031
Gerstner: SpaceX, Anthropic, OpenAI will add $1T revenue in 4-5 years
“The forecast now that we're going to add another trillion of revenue in just three companies, SpaceX, Anthropic, and OpenAI, over the next four to five years, ok? Like, not seven companies, three companies, and in half the time, right?”
Brad Gerstner Jun 11, 2026 ▶ 1:18:36 The SpaceX IPO, Fable 5, AI Capex Update & Market Check w/ Gavin Baker, Andrew Fox & Clark Tang · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Baker: Cursor and Anthropic hold more coding data than public web
“But my understanding is that Cursor and Anthropic have more tokens of proprietary coding data than anyone else, and they each have more tokens of proprietary coding data than exist on the public internet.”
Gavin Baker Jun 11, 2026 ▶ 5:21 The SpaceX IPO, Fable 5, AI Capex Update & Market Check w/ Gavin Baker, Andrew Fox & Clark Tang · Bg2 Pod
Opinion
Huang: Every country must develop sovereign AI capabilities
“And so I think that, that every country needs to have some sovereign capability. I recommend that they all use OpenAI, they all use Gemini, they all use, you know, these, Open models. You use Grok, and I think they, I recommend they all do that. I recommend th…”
Jensen Huang Sep 26, 2025 ▶ 1:01:14 NVIDIA: OpenAI, Future of Compute, and the American Dream | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Prediction Held up
Gerstner: ICONIQ will lead a $5B round in Anthropic at $170B valuation
“I think that Iconic is going to lead a five billion dollar round into Anthropic at a hundred and seventy billion.”
Brad Gerstner Jul 31, 2025 ▶ 29:49 China Open-Source, Compute Arms Race, Reordering Global Trade | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Opinion
Gerstner: Frontier AI model companies need tens of billions in annual revenue to survive
“Because if you're not bringing in 10, 20, 30, forty billion dollars of annual revenue, I don't think you can stay in this game.”
Brad Gerstner Jul 10, 2025 ▶ 45:13 Michael Dell – Invest America Act Becomes Law, AI Talent Wars, Compute Demand, Market Update | BG2 · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Partly supported
Gurley: OpenAI and Anthropic paid $10M annually before Meta's talent spree
“OpenAI, Anthropic, they were all paying people tons of money before Meta did this. They were paying them ten million a year, you know, maybe smaller than what you were talking about, but they were doing it.”
Bill Gurley Jul 10, 2025 ▶ 38:22 Michael Dell – Invest America Act Becomes Law, AI Talent Wars, Compute Demand, Market Update | BG2 · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Partly supported
Gurley: Reddit Sued Anthropic Despite Having an Existing Deal
“Reddit just sued Anthropic this morning despite having a deal”
Bill Gurley Jun 6, 2025 ▶ 5:30 China, AI Immigration, Rare Earths & Chips, Tariffs, Markets | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Opinion
Gerstner: Anthropic Has Minimal Contribution Margin Due to AWS Fees
“So in the case of Anthropic, most of their enterprise API, I believe is sold through AWS and they have to pay a huge, Customer acquisition fee in the world of Google, we would call it TAC probably to Amazon. And then of course you have all the costs that you h…”
Brad Gerstner Mar 21, 2025 ▶ 1:11:15 NVDA GTC, M&A Wiz / Goog $32 B Deal, April 2 Tariff Uncertainty; Huawei Belt & Road; ChatGPT | BG2 · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Gerstner: Anthropic has under $1B revenue and lacks rival traction
“You know, is Anthropic going to be able to show, you know, they have less than a billion in revenue. They don't really have they have good, great models, I would argue, but they don't have the consumer or the enterprise traction that the other folks do.”
Brad Gerstner Jan 23, 2025 ▶ 24:35 Stargate, Executive Orders, TikTok, DOGE, Public Valuations | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Opinion
Gurley: Big Tech Is Aggressively Undermining OpenAI and Anthropic Fundraising
“One of the objective functions may be just precisely to make it more difficult for OpenAI or Anthropic to raise, you know, ten billion dollars that they need to fund the next two model builds.”
Bill Gurley Aug 9, 2024 ▶ 39:57 Ep14. Public Market Volatility, AI Air Pocket, $GOOG Ruling | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Supported
Gurley: OpenAI Reaches ~$2B, Anthropic ~$100M, and Perplexity ~$25M from Subscriptions
“Playing around with credit card data, I think OpenAI is about two billion Anthropics about a hundred million in perplexities at like twenty-five million.”
Bill Gurley Jul 25, 2024 ▶ 41:25 Ep13. Silicon Valley’s Political 180, META AI, COVID Postmortem | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Opinion
Gerstner: Frontier AI Labs Must Win Consumers to Justify Billions Invested
“So if you're going to be Anthropic or OpenAI or Mistral or anybody else, it's hard to see how you build a business, you know, with payback on the tens of billions that you're going to be required to invest unless you're in the consumer game.”
Brad Gerstner May 16, 2024 ▶ 23:31 Ep9. GPT-4o, Astra, Multi Modal, China Tariffs, Tech Earnings | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
What-if
Gerstner: The Whole Market Could Be Down Without Anthropic's Revenue
“I think, you know, I've said it a couple times, I think if the anthropic revenue had not shown up this year, because that was the overhang on the market, I think the whole market could be down this year, right?”
Brad Gerstner Jun 11, 2026 ▶ 1:13:05 The SpaceX IPO, Fable 5, AI Capex Update & Market Check w/ Gavin Baker, Andrew Fox & Clark Tang · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Fox: xAI signed compute deals with Anthropic and Google worth billions
“They just signed Anthropic at 22 to 23. They just signed Google at 50.”
Andrew Fox Jun 11, 2026 ▶ 24:12 The SpaceX IPO, Fable 5, AI Capex Update & Market Check w/ Gavin Baker, Andrew Fox & Clark Tang · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Supported
Laffont: Anthropic grew from $1B to $3B in revenue within five months
“We've seen Anthropic, we have data in here that I think it took him about a year to get to their first billion in revenue. It took him three months to get to the next billion, and then it took him two months to get to the one The next billion after that, right…”
Thomas Laffont Jun 20, 2025 ▶ 41:39 Coatue’s Laffont Brothers. AI, Public & VC Mkts, Macro, US Debt, Crypto, IPO's, & more | BG2 · Bg2 Pod
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Philippe Laffont: Cloud computing could see a dozen hyperscalers emerge
“You could have a world with more like a dozen hyperscalers than like the two or three that we've had before.”
Philippe Laffont Jun 20, 2025 ▶ 26:07 Coatue’s Laffont Brothers. AI, Public & VC Mkts, Macro, US Debt, Crypto, IPO's, & more | BG2 · Bg2 Pod
Opinion
Gerstner: Anthropic has conceded the consumer AI market
“No, they've, they pretty much seeded the game on consumer.”
Brad Gerstner Mar 2, 2025 ▶ 19:06 Grok 3, AI Memory & Voice, China, DOGE, Public Market Pull Back | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Patel: Anthropic showed ~70% gross margins in its most recent round
“Or, you know, Anthropic, similarly, in their most recent round, they were showing, like, 70% gross margins.”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 56:01 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Supported
Patel: Amazon and Anthropic are building a 400,000-chip Trainium supercomputer
“Amazon and Anthropic have decided to, you know, make a 400,000 tranium server supercomputer, right? 400,000 chips, right?”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 1:16:50 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Prediction Held up
Patel: Google and Anthropic will both release reasoning models soon
“There's a Google model that is doing reasoning right now, and it's not released yet, but it's gonna be released soon enough, right? Anthropic is going to release a reasoning model.”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 52:27 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Contradicted
Gerstner: OpenAI and Anthropic Private Rounds Eclipse Recent Tech IPOs
“I think these are bigger private IPOs than any public IPO done in the last five years in the tech market, right?”
Brad Gerstner Aug 28, 2025 ▶ 1:30 China, China, China. Breaking Down China’s Tech Surge | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Laffont: Mag 7 was flat year-over-year while top AI companies gained value
“So it was interesting seeing that we think that on average, the max seven of us was basically flat year over year and yet tremendous value accretion to the top AI companies, right? Whether it's open AI or Anthropic or all kind of the following companies.”
Thomas Laffont Jun 20, 2025 ▶ 6:52 Coatue’s Laffont Brothers. AI, Public & VC Mkts, Macro, US Debt, Crypto, IPO's, & more | BG2 · Bg2 Pod
Insight
Gurley: Anthropic Open-Sourcing MCP Matches Google's Kubernetes Strategy
“I think it is one of the most savvy competitive Weapons you can bring to the field. I'm sure they were worried that open AI would create proprietary data connectors and they want everyone to use this one very similar to what Google did with Kubernetes.”
Bill Gurley Nov 27, 2024 ▶ 29:43 BG2 Thanksgiving Roundtable: DOGE, EV Tax Credit, Tariffs, Conspiracy Theories, Invest America · Bg2 Pod
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Gurley: Tech Giants Are Gearing Up for a Consumer AI 'Battle Royale'
“We're just gonna have six companies all running at the same prize and it's interesting, we end up talking about AI every week, but I don't know what there is else to talk about, because that's all anyone's talking about, and so it, we're gearing up for a battl…”
Bill Gurley May 16, 2024 ▶ 14:04 Ep9. GPT-4o, Astra, Multi Modal, China Tariffs, Tech Earnings | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Disclosure
Gerstner: Altimeter Has Not Invested in Foundation Model Companies
“So for us, we haven't invested in any of these.”
Brad Gerstner Jan 25, 2024 ▶ 16:21 BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner | MANG VC Gone Wild, Can You Trust AI Valuations? & More | E01 · Bg2 Pod
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