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Opinion
Gerstner: Blocking Big Tech From Small M&A Harms the Country
“We need to get back to a place where, you know, Microsoft and Google can go buy, you know, a company that's de minimis relative to their size. You know, Amazon can buy vacuum cleaner company, you know, iRobot without, you know phalanxes of lawyers and having t…”
Brad Gerstner Aug 9, 2024 ▶ 1:24:49 Ep14. Public Market Volatility, AI Air Pocket, $GOOG Ruling | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Opinion
Gurley: Cloud Revenue From Invested AI Credits Is 'Low Quality'
“From the big company player side, I would just say definitively, And this could get me in trouble, but this is low quality revenue. Like, this is flat out low quality revenue, and I'm certain that they've got their auditor to sign off on it, but I don't think …”
Bill Gurley Jan 25, 2024 ▶ 8:40 BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner | MANG VC Gone Wild, Can You Trust AI Valuations? & More | E01 · Bg2 Pod
Prediction Held up
Gerstner: Hyperscalers like Amazon and Meta will re-enter the stablecoin business
“You're going to see the hyperscalers. You're going to see Amazon and Meta and these guys back involved in the stable business.”
Brad Gerstner Oct 14, 2025 ▶ 43:19 AI Bubble, Stablecoin Boom, and Runnin' Down a Dream | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Insight
Gerstner: OpenAI should subsidize developer models using consumer profits
“Amazon had this monopoly retail business they could use to subsidize AWS, gain share for a decade, and then begin to take price. That would be a rational strategy for OpenAI to follow. So you take the profitable consumer business, you use it to subsidize, you …”
Brad Gerstner Jul 31, 2025 ▶ 39:20 China Open-Source, Compute Arms Race, Reordering Global Trade | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Opinion
Gerstner: Anthropic Has Minimal Contribution Margin Due to AWS Fees
“So in the case of Anthropic, most of their enterprise API, I believe is sold through AWS and they have to pay a huge, Customer acquisition fee in the world of Google, we would call it TAC probably to Amazon. And then of course you have all the costs that you h…”
Brad Gerstner Mar 21, 2025 ▶ 1:11:15 NVDA GTC, M&A Wiz / Goog $32 B Deal, April 2 Tariff Uncertainty; Huawei Belt & Road; ChatGPT | BG2 · Bg2 Pod
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Gerstner: Semiconductor tariffs will slow US AI research and hurt tech leadership
“So that would be a tax on, on the NVIDIAs and AMDs and others, and it would be a tax on Meta and Amazon and all the folks that would have to pay that tax, which likely means that you get less chips purchased and less AI research, right? So if our number one go…”
Brad Gerstner Feb 5, 2025 ▶ 47:52 DeepSeek, Open Source, Tariffs, DOGE, Market Impact | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Opinion
Haas: Energy Needs for AGI Exceed Big Tech Balance Sheets
“Get access to so much energy that's needed, we think, to drive AGI and ASI at numbers that are even well beyond the balance sheets of the giant Companies like a Microsoft, a Google, a Meta, an AWS, et cetera, an Amazon.”
Rene Haas Jan 23, 2025 ▶ 34:41 Stargate, Executive Orders, TikTok, DOGE, Public Valuations | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Partly supported
Patel: NVIDIA is cutting Blackwell margins to compete with custom ASICs
“Like with Blackwell, not only is it way, way, way faster, anywhere from 10 to 15 times on really large models for inference, because they've optimized it for very large language models, they've also decided, hey, we're gonna cut our margin, too, somewhat, beca…”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 14:16 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Insight
Patel: Multi-gigawatt buildouts disprove claims that AI scaling is over
“Why is Mark Zuckerberg building a two gigawatt data center in Louisiana? Why is Amazon building these multi gigawatt data centers? Why is Google, why is Microsoft building multiple gigawatt data centers? Plus buying billions and billions of dollars of fiber to…”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 37:39 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Opinion
Gurley: Big Tech Licensing Acquihires Like Adept Are Not VC Wins
“The adept thing is which was positioned by the press is similar to the inflection outcome. There's no way that's a win for venture capitalists. Like, I'm sure venture capitalists try and spin it, and we heard some spin around inflection, but it, you know, I, i…”
Bill Gurley Jul 11, 2024 ▶ 41:44 Ep12. Tech Stocks vs the Rest; AI VC Bubble, Calcium CT Scan | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Contradicted
Gerstner: Amazon Spent Over $100 Billion on AWS Before Turning Profitable
“By our analysis, for example, just Amazon, Spent over a hundred billion dollars on AWS invested for over eight years before they saw profitability in that business.”
Brad Gerstner Jul 11, 2024 ▶ 33:26 Ep12. Tech Stocks vs the Rest; AI VC Bubble, Calcium CT Scan | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Prediction Partly held up
Gerstner: Microsoft, Amazon, and Snowflake will accelerate growth rates in 2024
“We expect our forecast is that Microsoft and Amazon, you know, Snowflake, they'll all accelerate their growth rates this year, right?”
Brad Gerstner Jan 25, 2024 ▶ 29:57 BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner | MANG VC Gone Wild, Can You Trust AI Valuations? & More | E01 · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Patel: Amazon Trainium 2 costs ~$5,000 per chip versus $30,000+ for NVIDIA
“You're not paying, you know, north of 30,000, you know, 40,000 dollars per chip for the server, you're paying, you know, significantly less, right? 5000 dollars per chip, right?”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 1:16:23 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Supported
Patel: Amazon and Anthropic are building a 400,000-chip Trainium supercomputer
“Amazon and Anthropic have decided to, you know, make a 400,000 tranium server supercomputer, right? 400,000 chips, right?”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 1:16:50 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Partly supported
Patel: AWS Trainium2 offers highest HBM capacity and bandwidth per dollar
“Their whole thing at reInvent, if you really talk to them when they announced Trinium II and our whole post about it and our analysis of it is, like, supply chain-wise, this is, looks, you know, you squint your eyes, this looks like an Amazon Basics TPU, right…”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 1:06:02 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Gerstner: Hyperscalers and OpenAI are solely focused on 1-3 gigawatt power sites
“When I talk to CoreWeave, when I talk to Azure, when I talk to OpenAI, when I talk to Amazon, Google, et cetera, not one of them Is talking about anything other than how do we find the facilities that can support a gigawatt or two gigawatts or three gigawatts …”
Brad Gerstner Oct 31, 2024 ▶ 51:31 Ep19. State of Venture, AI Scaling, Elections | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner, & Jamin Ball · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Partly supported
Gerstner: Big Five Grew 2024 Earnings by 44% vs 2% for S&P 495
“And in 2024, the big five, so in this case, Microsoft, Meta, Nvidia, Amazon, and Google grew earnings at 44%... If you look at the other 495 companies in the S&P, their earnings only grew two percent.”
Brad Gerstner Jan 11, 2025 ▶ 11:09 Market Predictions, Rates & Inflation, DOGE, CES, AI Compute | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Patel: Most AWS data center CPUs are Intel chips from 2015-2020
“The plurality of Amazon's CPUs in their data centers Are 24 core Intel CPUs from, that were manufactured from 2015 to twenty-twenty.”
Dylan Patel Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 20:55 AI Semiconductor Landscape feat. Dylan Patel | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Gurley: Tech Giants Are Gearing Up for a Consumer AI 'Battle Royale'
“We're just gonna have six companies all running at the same prize and it's interesting, we end up talking about AI every week, but I don't know what there is else to talk about, because that's all anyone's talking about, and so it, we're gearing up for a battl…”
Bill Gurley May 16, 2024 ▶ 14:04 Ep9. GPT-4o, Astra, Multi Modal, China Tariffs, Tech Earnings | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Prediction Held up
Gerstner: Amazon will deploy custom silicon but remain major Nvidia buyer
“I think the answer to that is yes, but I still think they'll be one of the largest buyers of NVIDIA GPUs in the world because it doesn't replace that for a lot of really important workloads.”
Brad Gerstner Feb 22, 2024 ▶ 56:02 BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner | NVDA, Chips, AI Compute Build Out, AI Impact on Big Tech | E03 · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Supported
Gerstner: Microsoft, Amazon, Nvidia, and Google invested $25B in VC in 2023
“We go from almost no venture capital investing, you know, out of these folks six or seven years ago to all of a sudden this twenty five billion dollars last year in VC investing”
Brad Gerstner Jan 25, 2024 ▶ 4:09 BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner | MANG VC Gone Wild, Can You Trust AI Valuations? & More | E01 · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Supported
Gerstner: Big Tech Earnings Are Up 38% Over the Past 12 Months
“So if you look at it for Microsoft, NVIDIA, Amazon, Google, Meta, earnings are up 38% over the last 12 months.”
Brad Gerstner Jul 11, 2024 ▶ 12:16 Ep12. Tech Stocks vs the Rest; AI VC Bubble, Calcium CT Scan | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
Assertion Supported
Gerstner: Google trades at the lowest P/E and growth rate among MANG peers
“This is the 23 through 25 expected growth rates. 14% for Microsoft, 12% for Amazon. 42% for NVIDIA and 11% for Google. So Google's already expected out of those four to be growing at the slowest rate. But then what's interesting, if you come down here, To the …”
Brad Gerstner Feb 22, 2024 ▶ 33:23 BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner | NVDA, Chips, AI Compute Build Out, AI Impact on Big Tech | E03 · Bg2 Pod
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