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Google approaches product management primarily from a technical scaling perspective

Cameron Adams · Inside Canva: Coaches not managers, giving away your Legos, and embracing AI | Cameron Adams · Jun 2, 2024 · at 25:26

Cameron Adams, co-founder and CPO of Canva and a former Google employee, contrasts Google's engineering-driven PM approach with Canva's user experience-first approach.

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“Google's a fantastically engineering driven culture. And the way that they think about product management is mostly in the technical sense of like, Here's a piece of technology. What can that technology do? How do we scale it?”

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