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Zhuo: Chasing audience metrics destroys writing consistency

Julie Zhuo · Overcome imposter syndrome and accelerate your career | Julie Zhuo (Sundial, Facebook) · Sep 8, 2022 · at 41:25

Julie Zhuo (Sundial co-founder, ex-VP Design at Facebook) discusses building consistent writing habits with Lenny Rachitsky.

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“If you find yourself writing for your audience, you know, if you find yourself writing because you want likes or you want a certain number of views, That actually is a really hard barrier to overcome because you don't have control over all of that, right? But if you write because you're trying to work on a particular key skill, you know, whether it is clarity of thinking, whether it's, you know, again, helping you work through some stuff that's complicated in your mind, whether it's just, again, you know, working on Being more comfortable putting your voice out there, then make it a goal, but make it a action goal, right? Make it like a word count goal.”

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