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AI will force massive organizational change management within two to three years

Jason Droege · Scale AI CEO on Meta’s $14B deal, scaling Uber Eats to $80B, & what frontier labs are building next · Oct 9, 2025 · at 37:17

Scale AI CEO Jason Droege discusses the timeline for agentic AI adoption pushing past technological barriers into policy and organizational challenges.

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“We're not there from the technology standpoint, but I do think in the next two to three years, if I, you know, take the bait and like have to make a guess is the technology will get to a point where it will push the change management and policy makers to say like, Ooh, what do we do with this? Cause it's getting pretty close. That's probably two or three years away.”

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