Elizabeth Stone, CPTO at Netflix, discusses how the company's famous 'Keeper Test' management philosophy is applied internally in regular feedback conversations.
“It's often cited in a way where you think of keepers test as that moment where you decide to let someone go, that they're not the right fit for the role and the conversation about that. But it's equally commonly used to have a conversation about how extraordinary someone is, how well they're doing in a role, because the entry point is for me to say to one of my direct reports or for them to say to me, how am I doing on your keeper test?”
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