Shipper noted his team relied heavily on Claude Code in 2025, but nearly a year later observed that the era of CLI-based AI tools was ending.
THEN · Jul 17, 2025
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NOW · May 24, 2026
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“Claude code, everyone inside every, that's basically what we use. Um, if you're building something, you're using Claude code.”
“CLIs are over. Um, we, we speed ran the CLI, uh, era. It was nice while it lasted, but I think it's pretty, it's pretty clear. It's not that CLI, sorry. It's not that CLIs are going to completely go away. Obviously they've been around for the last like, 30 years or 40 years or 50 years or whatever. They will continue to be around. And I think there is this moment when Cloud Code was like so Yeah, I mean, I think it was really popular, or when, when Cloud Code was really starting to gain in popularity, that people were like, the, the thing that's working is the fact that it's the CLI, and I don't think that's what it is, and when you move into an actual UI for this, you start to realize, um, we made GUIs for a reason, and it's just nicer to be in a GUI, and you can get all the same benefits inside, inside of a GUI, especially for non-programmer work”